20 dead in Orlando gay club shooting

[Silver]

I don't own guns either, and neither do I drive an automobile.

[Huggy Bear]

I don't own any guns...

Also there are more guns in the U.S. than automobiles, yet more deaths are attributed to automobiles, so your logic kind of fails.

Btw, mind posting your stats for vending machine related deaths?

Huggy the issue here is the fact that there is terrible gun regulation and having better gun regulation would have prevented this.

Yet four times as many people die every year from automobiles than guns. If you're concerned about human loss of life, why aren't you against automobiles? Just sayin...

[Losty]

Huggy how do you feel about legally requiring a liability insurance on gun ownership? So if you accidentally or purposefully harm anyone or anything your insurance will cover the expenses including but not limited to compensation of the family if you kill someone.

[Losty]

Also, what about making it illegal to have a gun on your person while under the influence? And needing to have each gun registered and insured separately?

[rexbeccarox]

Huggy the issue here is the fact that there is terrible gun regulation and having better gun regulation would have prevented this.

Yet four times as many people die every year from automobiles than guns. If you're concerned about human loss of life, why aren't you against automobiles? Just sayin...

How 'bout you show the rest of the class how automobiles are manufactured to injure or kill? Until you can do that, I, for one, can't possibly take you seriously with that question.

[KUSA]

Why are people always threatening you, K?  Are you some sort of scumbag or something?

I like to be vigilant.

[Minimalist]

He's not the fucking problem asshole! The NRA IS THE GUN MAKERS ARE YOU FUCKING ASSHOLE.

The only time the GOP attempted anything sane was when Reagan and Brady got shot. And even that crap got gutted by the blood lobby. YES ASSHOLE THE BLOOD LOBBY. We cant even shit done when a school full of first and second graders gets murdered.

No and fuck you. The left is not the problem, the gun worshipers are. And what kind of fucking country do we live in when MY 84 yearbook has a picture of a mass shooting. A FUCKING HIGH SCHOOL YEARBOOK!

Now get this through your paranoid fucking skull! This is NOT about rights, this is about assholes who are too stupid to see that our current status quo is about VOLUME made and ease of access. 

GOP fucking blocked a bill two months ago which could have prevented this guy from doing this. Sane people have also tried to pass laws preventing the mentally ill from getting them, but at every fucking turn the BLOOD LOBBY obstructs.

This is about profits, not gun death prevention. The GOP doesn't give one flying fuck about reducing gun deaths.

18 times in the past 7 years Obama has had to make statements. But this isn't because he is a democrat you dipshit. Every president, including Bush Jr and Bush Sr and Clinton have all had to make national statements. This isn't a left or right issue, only the right is making that the issue. This isn't 2nd amendment issue, this a public health crisis issue. If this were Eboli causing this at this rate of frequency we would have done something by now.

Nope, this is one industry, the makers, and the blood lobby goons putting profits above human lives.

According to the FBI
https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/cr...0-2014.xls

There were 8,124 homicides involving firearms in 2014, and according to the NHTSA, there were 32,675 traffic fatalities in 2014.
http://www.nhtsa.gov/About+NHTSA/Press+R...ing-higher

It would seem that automobiles are the bigger threat, why not work big to small and start by banning them?

And we register cars and license drivers and insist that they carry insurance.

Whereas any asshole, even you, can go buy a gun.

[Huggy Bear]

Huggy how do you feel about legally requiring a liability insurance on gun ownership? So if you accidentally or purposefully harm anyone or anything your insurance will cover the expenses including but not limited to compensation of the family if you kill someone.

I'm fine with that, like I said, I don't own any guns.

In fact, if I was an insurance company, I'd love that law being a requirement, seeing how statistically it's far less riskier than auto insurance.

---

How 'bout you show the rest of the class how automobiles are manufactured to injure or kill? Until you can do that, I, for one, can't possibly take you seriously with that question.

That's kinda the point isn't it? Automobiles aren't designed to kill, actually it's quite the opposite, they are designed to adhere to strict safety regulations, yet they kill four times as many people as the thing that's actually designed to kill.

So use a little of that deductive reasoning and tell me which is the bigger problem?

*edit*
And btw, your logic is like 10 people dying from poison and 40 people dying from applesauce, yet you want to focus on the poison, since applesauce isn't meant to kill...

[NaughtyButNice]

I was curious to see if the Westboro Baptist Church had anything to say, so I Googled them and sure enough they're saying these people brought it on themselves. Not that I'm surprised, just disgusted and wishing them to vanish off the face of the Earth.

[WinterHold]

Hahahahaha Sodomites xD

Hahahahaha I'm sorry but this phrase is very hilarious (English is not my first language, so Sodomite is just a funny phrase !!!)..
I mean imagine this; instead of saying "go fuck yourself; fag !", you say "go fuck yourself, Sodomite!!", lool !!!!

OMG I didn't laugh like this for ages..OMG..

First things first:

------An Islamic opinion about the incident-----

Nobody has the right to kill another soul, except if it was a reply to a crime of the same degree.

Our noble God says:

Sura 5:
( 44 )   Indeed, We sent down the Torah, in which was guidance and light. The prophets who submitted [to Allah] judged by it for the Jews, as did the rabbis and scholars by that with which they were entrusted of the Scripture of Allah, and they were witnesses thereto. So do not fear the people but fear Me, and do not exchange My verses for a small price. And whoever does not judge by what Allah has revealed - then it is those who are the disbelievers.
( 45 )   And We ordained for them therein a life for a life, an eye for an eye, a nose for a nose, an ear for an ear, a tooth for a tooth, and for wounds is legal retribution. But whoever gives [up his right as] charity, it is an expiation for him. And whoever does not judge by what Allah has revealed - then it is those who are the wrongdoers.

This sentence survived from the Torah and was written upon Muslims too: it's usually summed as "an eye for  an eye". Indeed; it's not right to kill those who didn't kill, it is never justified.

Across the Quran,there is no verse -not even a single one- that advocates the murder of homosexuals and people who commit adultry. It is true that there are stories about God punishing people for doing such sins -by death-, but we have no right to play God, as believers, and do what he does.

Again I repeat: we have no right to play God, get caught in self-righteousness, and do what he does.
This killer of homosexuals, deserves to be killed, from the base of "eye for an eye", because he did kill people who didn't kill nobody. 

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

--------The political shadow of the event-----

In whom's interest does this play, mainly?
Gun control & more dwelling into the police state; indeed.
I wouldn't add anything more. 

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

-----------Just to remember-----------

We thought America would be safe after the death of Bin Laden?
We thought the whole world will be after the death of Saddam Hussain?
Now, we have ISIS and crazy Muslims disobeying their own religion and shooting gays?
The world didn't get safer? 

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

-------------Mark my words--------------

It happened in the middle east a long time ago.
They took our guns, our dignity, our pride, our religion, our law, and left us like slaves under the current police states which you can see across the region.
They will do the same to you.

You still have partial freedoms, soon you will become like us: mere cows, so easily milked out of everything.
They will take your claws so you may never hit back, or even scratch.

Soon they will break your teeth, too.


It always starts by some gays, women, Palestinians, dying on the floor.
Some smart people tried to warn you.