Refuting Christians with their Own Bible

[Neo-Scholastic]

Refuted ;-) good job team

More like epic failure of exegesis.

[The Grand Nudger]

I'm sorry that we can't fan-fic as well as you. Are you planning on picking up the torch of sex slavery apologism? You don't really need to though, do you? You don't believe that magic book is a newsreel, iirc.

Eve didn't have a conversation with a dragon and god wouldn't command anyone to do that, right?

[Veritas_Vincit]

Refuted ;-) good job team

More like epic failure of exegesis.

Of which now?

[Minimalist]

He means we didn't buy his bullshit story.

And he's right.

[Veritas_Vincit]

I see, it did seem like an obfuscatory choice of word

[GrandizerII]

Refuted ;-) good job team

More like epic failure of exegesis.

What did we fail at in terms of interpretation?

It's clear as the sun that, according to the Torah, the OT God condoned slavery.

Our overall argument is that such a God could've done a way better job than to let slavery happen.

[Veritas_Vincit]

Which undermines the argument that he is any kind of moral authority, and supports the argument that he is just a piece of Bronze Age mythology.

[SteveII]

God wants a lot of things that he does not get.
 
Your option 2 is not compatible with free will. If God appeared to each person, our choice to choose God rather than not God becomes nearly impossible. However, that does not mean he has not given moral guidance. Everyone knows the difference between right and wrong. We are born with it. 

[A] I understand your point and I assume you are talking about divine revelation all the way through the NT. However I think your point is invalidated by the fact there are 2.3 Billion Christians on the planet. It seem you underestimate the evidence that it takes for someone to believe. 

Other than to assert there are "so many creative possibilities" to the type of slavery in that time you have not even suggested the details of how a system would work in a tribal culture without centralized power surrounded by similar counties that would achieve the obvious goals in Israel's version of slavery. 

BTW, you won't get any traction with the NT verses. All they do is instruct current slaves to obey their masters. Actually Philemon has Paul imploring that Philemon do the right thing by his slave.

1) Why does it matter that we choose God? [because he want us to. it is the purpose of the entire universe so this concept becomes paramount in every discussion of why God did...]
2) If God telling everyone what he wants them to do messes with free will then why tell anyone? Telling a handful is a terrible idea. Surely God would know that revelation is only evidence to the person it is revealed to? I don't believe UFO crazies for exactly this reason!  [see 2.3 Billion examples why that reasoning doesn't work]
3) Your point about 2.3billion people believing it is irrelevant as more than that used to believe the world was flat and the sun went round it. They were wrong. [Bad analogy. You are arguing that there was not enough evidence for God. There obviously was and there is.]
4) If we are born with morality why do we need the Bible? [To point us to the source of that morality, among other minor things like outlining the plan of salvation]
5) If you're telling me your God couldn't think of a way for humans to live without slavery, and couldn't think of a way to tell them, then he's an idiot because anyone alive on the planet today could do that. [So, you don't have any idea then...kinda thought that after you avoided the question for the 10th time]
6) Stop going back to the NT - you can't have one without the other. Jesus said all the old stuff still stands, he says it in the sermon on the mount. [You have been told elsewhere you are wrong. Your going to have to put something else in your "let's repeat these points over and over" bullet list of why Christianity is wrong]
7) God could have said Slavery was wrong. He didn't, which is bad enough, but he actually endorsed it, which is immoral. None of this 'cultural context' or 'indentured servitude' gets you anywhere except where you really don't want to be - rationalising slavery. Have you ever considered how similar the dynamic between God and man is to that of an abusive relationship? [Apparently he thought regulating it was a lesser evil then prohibiting it. You will have to prove that to be a morally wrong choice to win your point. "He could have figured out a way...but I have no clue how" is not enough.]

In addition, your idea of slavery has been skewed by the recent version of it. Slaves rose to great responsibility, were to be paid when set free, death penalty for maiming or killing one, etc. You should not be picturing chains and whips. It was a HUGE part of the culture for thousands of years before and thousands of years after. Of course there were abuses and of course people, in many or even most cases, didn't want to be slaves. They also didn't want to be dead either. With the relative safety we live in today, I cannot imagine living back then.

[Veritas_Vincit]

Mate we are just gonna have to agree to disagree.

[Minimalist]

God wants a lot of things that he does not get.

Pretty shitty god you have there.