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Christians, what is it like to have a personal relationship with Jesus?
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RE: Christians, what is it like to have a personal relationship with Jesus?
(July 14, 2016 at 1:07 pm)PETE_ROSE Wrote:
(July 14, 2016 at 11:13 am)madog Wrote: And you sleep better because you have found something that you think answers all the questions .... And for some yes it does, that was how religion was designed.

Religion answers all your questions with what you want to hear and if one religion doesn't give the answers you like their are other denominations or different religions that will ....

If you just want answers that you want rather than what actually is good luck to you, but that isn't a good enough reason to indoctrinate others and especially children  Dodgy

What am i supposed to respond too? you have added nothing?
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#22
RE: Christians, what is it like to have a personal relationship with Jesus?
(July 14, 2016 at 1:39 am)Irrational Wrote: Ok, since I keep noticing that Christians (Evangelical Christians, particularly) tend to doubt that a former Christian was truly a Christian, arguing that the former Christian never truly knew Jesus and never truly had a relationship with him, then what does it mean for someone to have a true relationship with Jesus?

Detail for us all what your relationship with Jesus is like, and what makes you know that you are in such a relationship? Be as specific as can be. Avoid vagueness. Thank you.

Get ready for this loophole...

1 John 2:19

19 They went out from us, but they did not really belong to us. For if they had belonged to us, they would have remained with us; but their going showed that none of them belonged to us.
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#23
RE: Christians, what is it like to have a personal relationship with Jesus?
(July 14, 2016 at 1:15 pm)PETE_ROSE Wrote:
(July 14, 2016 at 10:45 am)robvalue Wrote: I'd love to hear just one thing Jesus or God has ever told anyone that isn't either incredibly obvious or couldn't be found out easily some other way.

Something other than the location of some fucking car keys. Something actually profound.

Hey Rob, how's the Brexit going?  I'm hoping to do a little speculation in the GBP to USD.  Everyone seems to think its going lower.  I do see value and some cash to be made there.  As for your post, I would point to the dozens of messianic prophecies in the OT that were all fulfilled by Christ.  It's really quite telling when all taken together.

Hey there Smile Going really badly, as far as I can tell. I'm hoping there will be some sort of last minute veto.
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#24
RE: Christians, what is it like to have a personal relationship with Jesus?
(July 14, 2016 at 1:15 pm)PETE_ROSE Wrote: . . . I would point to the dozens of messianic prophecies in the OT that were all fulfilled by Christ.  It's really quite telling when all taken together.

Well . . . . . . .


You can thank (or curse) the Mormons (yes, the Mormons again) for showing how that little bit of religious chicanery is accomplished:


* say they did when some/most/all didn't

* rewrite the prophecies, a little or a lot, and repeat as necessary

* rewrite the records of the supposed 'fulfillments' to make them closer

* make up more 'fulfillments' if the existing provenance seems inadequate

* rely on the pew warmers to not look at any of the pesky details too closely

* lock away in old musty filing cabinets anything that might upset the apple cart

* claim inconsistencies or problems are due to imperfections in translations that are unavoidable

* divert, deflect, obfuscate

* excommunicate any of the pew warmers that seems to be catching on to the chicanery


So, that's how that bit of sausage is made. I suppose for the rest of the religious folks it's a real kick in the shins the fucking Mormons published the play book, but here we are, and as even the highest muckety mucks in Salt Lake City have come to realize, it's DAMN hard to get that kind of shit back in the can.

I'm thinking the True Christians of the 1820s on might have tried a bit harder to exterminate the Mormon menace had they but realized the peril LDS would put all their religions in.
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#25
RE: Christians, what is it like to have a personal relationship with Jesus?
Speaking of delusional assholes.

http://www.rawstory.com/2016/07/duck-dyn...als-jesus/

Quote:‘Duck Dynasty’ star says Trump has a get-out-of-jail-free card for all scandals: Jesus

Quote:In a video posted by Right Wing Watch, Robertson says that all of Trump’s past sins could be forgiven and forgotten in a snap if he just makes a high-profile conversion to Evangelical Christianity.

“If he but be born again, he could then tell them, ‘That’s the old me, I’ve been born again, this is the new Donald Trump,'” Robertson said.

Apparently these people really are stupid enough to believe such abject bullshit.

They should all be in straightjackets.
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RE: Christians, what is it like to have a personal relationship with Jesus?
(July 14, 2016 at 1:47 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Speaking of delusional assholes.

http://www.rawstory.com/2016/07/duck-dyn...als-jesus/

Quote:‘Duck Dynasty’ star says Trump has a get-out-of-jail-free card for all scandals: Jesus

Quote:In a video posted by Right Wing Watch, Robertson says that all of Trump’s past sins could be forgiven and forgotten in a snap if he just makes a high-profile conversion to Evangelical Christianity.

“If he but be born again, he could then tell them, ‘That’s the old me, I’ve been born again, this is the new Donald Trump,'” Robertson said.

Apparently these people really are stupid enough to believe such abject bullshit.

They should all be in straightjackets.


Why so much hate against Christians? Its really self destructing to be this angry.

Did some charismatic christian promised you hell for the sinful life?
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RE: Christians, what is it like to have a personal relationship with Jesus?
(July 14, 2016 at 2:02 pm)purplepurpose Wrote:
(July 14, 2016 at 1:47 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Speaking of delusional assholes.

http://www.rawstory.com/2016/07/duck-dyn...als-jesus/



Apparently these people really are stupid enough to believe such abject bullshit.

They should all be in straightjackets.


Why so much hate against Christians? Its really self destructing to be this angry.

Did some charismatic christian promised you hell for the sinful life?

It's not the people I hate... it's their stupid ideologies and religious thinking. It causes them to do some really fucked up things.  I have plenty of friends who are christian. If I hated christians so much, I wouldn't have those people as friends.
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RE: Christians, what is it like to have a personal relationship with Jesus?
(July 14, 2016 at 2:41 pm)Nymphadora Wrote:
(July 14, 2016 at 2:02 pm)purplepurpose Wrote: Why so much hate against Christians? Its really self destructing to be this angry.

Did some charismatic christian promised you hell for the sinful life?

It's not the people I hate... it's their stupid ideologies and religious thinking. It causes them to do some really fucked up things.  I have plenty of friends who are christian. If I hated christians so much, I wouldn't have those people as friends.

Can you give one example from your life, where religion caused harm?
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#29
RE: Christians, what is it like to have a personal relationship with Jesus?
(July 14, 2016 at 2:02 pm)purplepurpose Wrote:
(July 14, 2016 at 1:47 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Speaking of delusional assholes.

http://www.rawstory.com/2016/07/duck-dyn...als-jesus/



Apparently these people really are stupid enough to believe such abject bullshit.

They should all be in straightjackets.


Why so much hate against Christians? Its really self destructing to be this angry.

Did some charismatic christian promised you hell for the sinful life?

Because you are all fucking assholes who need to grow up.  You're on your own, sonny.  There is no invisible sky-daddy watching out for you.

Moron.

BTW, I have no more use for muslims than xtians.  It's the whole religion thing because I don't want you to feel "special."
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#30
RE: Christians, what is it like to have a personal relationship with Jesus?
(July 14, 2016 at 2:53 pm)purplepurpose Wrote: Can you give one example from your life, where religion caused harm?

A pastor told my mother to divorce my father because he wasn't a Christian. She divorced my dad - life was fucked after that.
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