Christians, what is it like to have a personal relationship with Jesus?

[GUBU]

What is your relationship to Truth? What is your relationship with what is Good? Are these real to you or just convenient fictions? As for me, I believe they are real and that belief affects my life in a very deep and personal way. And so it follows that since Jesus Christ is the full actualization of what is Good and True, I have a personal relationship with Him. Does that make sense to you?

(FWIW I consider the this way of stating it as just a more philosophical way and without the "churchspeak" manner that Drich used above.)

Wooters, hate to break it to you you deluded little idiot, but truth and goodness have no relationship to your imaginary friend. Was Yeshua born of a virgin? No. Did he die and rise on the third day? No. Did he fulfill jewish prophesies? Not a single one. That's truth dealt with.

And when you read all the atrocities attributed to god in the bible, up to mass extinction because he was angry at us for his work being bad, you begin to understand that good is the exact opposite of what god wuld be, if he were anything other than a badly told bronze age myth.

So in conclusion Woothers you have a clise and personal relationship with a lie if your own making. You should really stop with the superior attitude when conversing with your intellectual and moral betters.

[FatAndFaithless]

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Welp, there's another of the handful of times I have to agree with Drich.

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[Spirian]

Our home was sober, well kept, and non-violent. My dad never berated my mother for her faith. There was no reason for our family to be dismantled because some old-fashioned myth says so.

Then she should have consulted her bible first... Or she just wanted to leave all along and this moron's sermon gave her an easy out.

The mere fact that religion exists (as a means of mind control) is the issue here, not whether one slave reads and follows its edicts properly or not. If Christianity didn't exist then there wouldn't have been the opportunity to abuse my mother via its ploys, and it's very likely that my parents would still be together today. 

Religion ruined my home. Christians are more interested in their silly apologetics than in acknowledging the harm done by their religion. Please note the overwhelming support from atheists toward me in this matter, and then also note the conspicuous lack of empathy on the part of Christian responses.

[purplepurpose]

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9/11 is what you get when you are trying to police the world for your own benefit.

[FatAndFaithless]

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9/11 is what you get when you are trying to police the world for your own benefit.

Are you claiming that religion had nothing to do with 9/11, and that the west had it coming?  Or just America in particular had it coming?

[purplepurpose]

9/11 is what you get when you are trying to police the world for your own benefit.

Are you claiming that religion had nothing to do with 9/11, and that the west had it coming?  Or just America in particular had it coming?

Religion is at fault. But the strongest country on earth couldnt resist the temptetion to abuse its dominant position, making lots of bloody mistakes pre 9/11 and till this day.

[FatAndFaithless]

Are you claiming that religion had nothing to do with 9/11, and that the west had it coming?  Or just America in particular had it coming?

Religion is at fault. But the strongest country on earth couldnt resist the temptetion to abuse its dominant position, making lots of bloody mistakes pre 9/11 and till this day.

It seems like you can't post a single thing without hemming and hawing and obfuscating your actual ideas with wish-washy bullshit.

But, earlier you said 

Can you give one example from your life, where religion caused harm?

And now you've said religion is at fault with regards to 9/11.

Seems like you've answered your own question - the point of which is fucking beyond me.

[purplepurpose]

Religion is at fault. But the strongest country on earth couldnt resist the temptetion to abuse its dominant position, making lots of bloody mistakes pre 9/11 and till this day.

It seems like you can't post a single thing without hemming and hawing and obfuscating your actual ideas with wish-washy bullshit.

But, earlier you said 

Can you give one example from your life, where religion caused harm?

And now you've said religion is at fault with regards to 9/11.

Seems like you've answered your own question - the point of which is fucking beyond me.

I meant partially, sorry. Religion did gave power of faith to the suicide squad. But their country was provoked.

[FatAndFaithless]

It's not the people I hate... it's their stupid ideologies and religious thinking. It causes them to do some really fucked up things.  I have plenty of friends who are christian. If I hated christians so much, I wouldn't have those people as friends.

Can you give one example from your life, where religion caused harm?

It seems like you can't post a single thing without hemming and hawing and obfuscating your actual ideas with wish-washy bullshit.

But, earlier you said 

And now you've said religion is at fault with regards to 9/11.

Seems like you've answered your own question - the point of which is fucking beyond me.

I meant partially, sorry. Religion did gave power of faith to the suicide squad. But they were provoked.

The point of this is still beyond me.  Are you trying to say that religion is never guilty of anything, that there are always other things that are the real problem?

[purplepurpose]

Can you give one example from your life, where religion caused harm?

I meant partially, sorry. Religion did gave power of faith to the suicide squad. But they were provoked.

The point of this is still beyond me.  Are you trying to say that religion is never guilty of anything, that there are always other things that are the real problem?

Christianity preaches "love your neighbour as yourself" and other hippy stuff in NT, its doctrine doesnt have any problems. Muslims are something special. They have savage OT style holy book and it was a mistake to meld in their buisness in the first place. 

Christianity demands very idealistic and noble things, if followers make mistakes, its their own problem and abuse of those ideals.