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RE: Is white privilege real? To what extent?
July 20, 2016 at 2:02 pm
That you whine about how mean we are, and reboot the convo every few pages just to say the same silly shit - which has already been addressed multiple times, is why you find yourself in this position. Not due to any agenda, or any taboo on questions or questioning.
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RE: Is white privilege real? To what extent?
July 20, 2016 at 2:04 pm
(July 20, 2016 at 1:57 pm)Alasdair Ham Wrote: White privilege exists however you define it. If you redefine it to mean "pumpkin" you're not talking about white privilege anymore.
There is generally less racism against white people overall in this world and that generally gives white people comparatively more advantages and less disadvantages than other races.
I didn't ask if it exists or not I asked how you define it.
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RE: Is white privilege real? To what extent?
July 20, 2016 at 2:08 pm
(July 20, 2016 at 1:57 pm)Alasdair Ham Wrote: White privilege exists however you define it. If you redefine it to mean "pumpkin" you're not talking about white privilege anymore.
There is generally less racism against white people overall in this world and that generally gives white people comparatively more advantages and less disadvantages than other races.
I agree that if you're white and in a white majority country and also in a white majority neighbourhood within that country you have an advantage over people in a minority.
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RE: Is white privilege real? To what extent?
July 20, 2016 at 2:09 pm
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Doesn't seem to matter what neighborhood you live in. So I guess that leaves us with..if you're white in a white majority country. OFC, IDK that you really need to live in a white majority country either, though it helps...more an issue of where the power is concentrated. White colonials, for example.
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RE: Is white privilege real? To what extent?
July 20, 2016 at 2:21 pm
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(July 20, 2016 at 12:37 pm)paulpablo Wrote: My agenda is to point out that sometimes the use of the word whites privilege doesn't fit.
Your agenda? So you finally admit it. It was a disingenuous setup. You already had your mind made up and you wanted to respond to the responses you got in order to promote your own agenda and preconceived notions.
This was totally spot on:
(July 19, 2016 at 1:17 pm)thesummerqueen Wrote: You started the thread with your question already answered in your head...that basically people need to stop complaining about how easy whites got it, even though they do seem to have it easy.
We're aware.
And so was this:
(July 17, 2016 at 2:06 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Are we done? Because I'm tired of pretending we're having a conversation in good faith.
So I'm done now too because I'm also tired of pretending to have a conversation in good faith with you, Pablo. If I respond to you again on this matter it will be only due to my bad memory that we're not actually having a real discussion with you because you have an agenda.
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RE: Is white privilege real? To what extent?
July 20, 2016 at 2:24 pm
(July 20, 2016 at 2:02 pm)Rhythm Wrote: That you whine about how mean we are, and reboot the convo every few pages just to say the same silly shit - which has already been addressed multiple times, is why you find yourself in this position. Not due to any agenda, or any taboo on questions or questioning.
It's so ironic that he plays the victim by whining about the majority of the forum having an agenda and then finally admits that he himself has an agenda. He's clearly only asking questions so she can respond with his own preconceived bullshit.
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RE: Is white privilege real? To what extent?
July 20, 2016 at 2:29 pm
(July 20, 2016 at 2:21 pm)Alasdair Ham Wrote: (July 20, 2016 at 12:37 pm)paulpablo Wrote: My agenda is to point out that sometimes the use of the word whites privilege doesn't fit.
Your agenda? So you finally admit it. It was a disingenuous setup. You already had your mind made up and you wanted to respond to the responses you got in order to promote your own agenda and preconceived notions.
This was totally spot on:
(July 19, 2016 at 1:17 pm)thesummerqueen Wrote: You started the thread with your question already answered in your head...that basically people need to stop complaining about how easy whites got it, even though they do seem to have it easy.
We're aware.
And so was this:
(July 17, 2016 at 2:06 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Are we done? Because I'm tired of pretending we're having a conversation in good faith.
So I'm done now too because I'm also tired of pretending to have a conversation in good faith with you, Pablo. If I respond to you again on this matter it will be only due to my bad memory that we're not actually having a real discussion with you because you have an agenda.
I used the word agenda there with a bit of irony.
My opinion is that whites privilege is often used in situations where it doesn't fit, so in a sense I have made my mind up about that but I'm open to other suggestions and conversations about the extent of which white privilege does fit in with certain situations.
If you think that's an agenda then I do have an agenda but I'm not being dishonest.
I've stated an opinion and my "agenda" was to get my opinion across to people which I'm sure is the same agenda everyone else has when they state their opinions or observations.
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RE: Is white privilege real? To what extent?
July 20, 2016 at 2:31 pm
(July 20, 2016 at 2:24 pm)Alasdair Ham Wrote: (July 20, 2016 at 2:02 pm)Rhythm Wrote: That you whine about how mean we are, and reboot the convo every few pages just to say the same silly shit - which has already been addressed multiple times, is why you find yourself in this position. Not due to any agenda, or any taboo on questions or questioning.
It's so ironic that he plays the victim by whining about the majority of the forum having an agenda and then finally admits that he himself has an agenda. He's clearly only asking questions so she can respond with his own preconceived bullshit.
Ok we're done, another convo shut down amidst a bunch of swearing and over emotional reactions.
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RE: Is white privilege real? To what extent?
July 20, 2016 at 2:32 pm
(July 20, 2016 at 1:28 pm)thesummerqueen Wrote: (July 20, 2016 at 12:54 pm)RobertE Wrote: A little something to stop your sides from splitting..... 
Was that supposed to troll me? You act like I don't wear shit like that just to get my rocks off.
If is British humour. If you don't know what British humour is like, then there is no hope.....:-) And I thought this forum had a sense of humour. We have a saying about those who can't laugh.
"Ils ont coincée de cul..."
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RE: Is white privilege real? To what extent?
July 20, 2016 at 2:35 pm
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You know what guys? I'll have a conversation when it's actually a conversation rather than just myself responding to someone's preconceived responses to promote their own agenda.
A conversation actually involves listening, an agenda doesn't.
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