Is white privilege real? To what extent?

[The Grand Nudger]

@BrokenQuill (I tried to quote you but it didn't work) - The sad thing is this seems really common. The LGBT "community" does alienate a lot of other identities as well as racial minority LGBT people.

The amount of white gay men I see who still don't realise how much of a dick they look when they right "no blacks, no Asians" across their dating site profiles, and use their little "preferences" to justify blocking minority gays from LGBT safe spaces. It's rampant.

Then these same people question why "LGBT black pride" is a thing... 

I saw one guy a few weeks ago up in arms because BLM had "the audacity" to (briefly, not even all day) stop the Toronto Pride parade and make requests for more/better representation of trans and black LGBT people within gay spaces. This guy seriously thought that was such an unreasonable request.

Cmon now...you can't really have a problem with people honestly expressing their sexual preferences and attractions?  If I had a dating profile...I'd be pretty upfront about rosy cheeked angular blondes needing not apply......   . I mean, a person could interpret that as some sort of weird anti white reverse racism or plantation complex...or maybe it's just because I spent my formative sexual years surrounded by jewish snowbirds, positively drowning in latin heat...?

The only safe space a person is denying someone by being open about what they like, is the one between their legs.

[Regina]

@BrokenQuill (I tried to quote you but it didn't work) - The sad thing is this seems really common. The LGBT "community" does alienate a lot of other identities as well as racial minority LGBT people.

The amount of white gay men I see who still don't realise how much of a dick they look when they right "no blacks, no Asians" across their dating site profiles, and use their little "preferences" to justify blocking minority gays from LGBT safe spaces. It's rampant.

Then these same people question why "LGBT black pride" is a thing... 

I saw one guy a few weeks ago up in arms because BLM had "the audacity" to (briefly, not even all day) stop the Toronto Pride parade and make requests for more/better representation of trans and black LGBT people within gay spaces. This guy seriously thought that was such an unreasonable request.

Cmon now...you can't really have a problem with people honestly expressing their sexual preferences and attractions?  If I had a dating profile...I'd be pretty upfront about rosy cheeked angular blondes needing not apply......   .  I mean, a person could interpret that as some sort of weird anti white reverse racism or plantation complex...or maybe it's just because I spent my formative sexual years surrounded by jewish snowbirds, positively drowning in latin heat...?

The only safe space a person is denying someone by being open about what they like, is the one between their legs.

This is the thing I'm tired of explaining to other gays in this discussion; there is nothing wrong, in itself, with having a preference in dating. The "problem" is when you are just being a cunt about it and being downright nasty, writing people off before you've even seen what they are like or what they look like, and doing it so distastefully like this;

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And by "gay spaces" I meant when non-white LGBT are actually treated badly in or even blocked from gay bars and pride events. It does happen very often.

[BrokenQuill92]

@BrokenQuill (I tried to quote you but it didn't work) - The sad thing is this seems really common. The LGBT "community" does alienate a lot of other identities as well as racial minority LGBT people.

The amount of white gay men I see who still don't realise how much of a dick they look when they right "no blacks, no Asians" across their dating site profiles, and use their little "preferences" to justify blocking minority gays from LGBT safe spaces. It's rampant.

Then these same people question why "LGBT black pride" is a thing... 

I saw one guy a few weeks ago up in arms because BLM had "the audacity" to (briefly, not even all day) stop the Toronto Pride parade and make requests for more/better representation of trans and black LGBT people within gay spaces. This guy seriously thought that was such an unreasonable request.

Cmon now...you can't really have a problem with people honestly expressing their sexual preferences and attractions?  If I had a dating profile...I'd be pretty upfront about rosy cheeked angular blondes needing not apply......   . I mean, a person could interpret that as some sort of weird anti white reverse racism or plantation complex...or maybe it's just because I spent my formative sexual years surrounded by jewish snowbirds, positively drowning in latin heat...?

The only safe space a person is denying someone by being open about what they like, is the one between their legs.

That really sounds like an okay thing to do to a whole group of people to you? Really? No blacks? No Asians? No bisexuals? Because of some percived stereotypes, you'll just blot out entire groups of people with out getting know someone as an individual human being? And to be so blatantly rude and prejudice doesn't strike you as problematic? Understand me, I'm not saying you don't have a right to aesthetic preferences. I like red hair. But I don't exclude blondes from my dating pool.

[The Grand Nudger]

Uh, yeah, it really sounds like an ok thing to do...to tell people who I'm not attracted to, that I'm not attracted to them. I've never been much of a settler. You know that there are alot of people in the world, right...you absolutely can get -exactly- what you want..what pushes every single button.....?

No one has a right to my affection or attraction. There is no equal opportunity program. I want what I want, and I go get it. I'm sure that the skinny blondes of the world havent lost anything on account of my ruling them out...I'd just spend our relationship staring at their darker, meatier siblings.

[paulpablo]

Uh, yeah, it really sounds like an ok thing to do...to tell people who I'm not attracted to, that I'm not attracted to them. I've never been much of a settler. You know that there are alot of people in the world, right...you absolutely can get -exactly- what you want..what pushes every single button.....?

No one has a right to my affection or attraction. There is no equal opportunity program. I want what I want, and I go get it. I'm sure that the skinny blondes of the world havent lost anything on account of my ruling them out...I'd just spend our relationship staring at their darker, meatier siblings.

I never thought I'd say this in this thread but I agree with rhythm on this.

I'm genuinely not offended when I see a white girls dating profile that says black or mixed race only.
Most profiles of women have height discrimination rather than race though.
I've been with black, Asian and white girls.
I wouldn't rule out black girls but I found the Asian and white girls more attractive and that's my preference, I don't blame other people for having a more definite preference that does rule people out.

[Excited Penguin]

How could you fault someone for who they're attracted to, anyway? That's an incredibly insane notion.

[The Grand Nudger]

You know, hey..to each his own..but allow me to suggest that being schutpped "for you personality" simply isn't as gratifying as being schtupped -could- be.  Go find someone that can't fucking look at you, without wanting to chew your clothing off.

I'd be pissed, honestly pissed...if I asked somebody why they were in bed with me...and they said "because you're an awesome person". Well..yeah, ofc I am..but also insanely attractive with an obscenely satisfying package..right, that;s in there too......no? OK, so, pack your shit and get out...I've got work to do. If someone isn't all in on me, I'm not in on them at all.

[Losty]

Woah! I just received a lot of Losty Kudos on this thread. Thank you kitten

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Just kidding, best turtle

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[BrokenQuill92]

How could you fault someone for who they're attracted to, anyway? That's an incredibly insane notion.

No one is saying that, I'm saying there's a way to not be an asshole about it. And usually when you hear someone say they won't date this type of person it's because of a stereotype. That's all I'm saying. No is saying fault anything. But maybe you should question exactly why you're excluding certain people, or examine why you like what you like. Everyone needs to self reflect once in a while and think on their choices yes attraction is partial choice built on societal constructs of attractiveness.

[Losty]

Cmon now...you can't really have a problem with people honestly expressing their sexual preferences and attractions?  If I had a dating profile...I'd be pretty upfront about rosy cheeked angular blondes needing not apply......   .  I mean, a person could interpret that as some sort of weird anti white reverse racism or plantation complex...or maybe it's just because I spent my formative sexual years surrounded by jewish snowbirds, positively drowning in latin heat...?

The only safe space a person is denying someone by being open about what they like, is the one between their legs.

That really sounds like an okay thing to do to a whole group of people to you? Really? No blacks? No Asians? No bisexuals? Because of some percived stereotypes, you'll just blot out entire groups of people with out getting know someone as an individual human being? And to be so blatantly rude and prejudice doesn't strike you as problematic? Understand me, I'm not saying you don't have a right to  aesthetic preferences. I like red hair. But I don't exclude blondes from my dating pool.

Wait what!?

Of course it's ok O_O

Are gay men sexist for saying "men only" on their profile!?

If you add in a racist remark (like the one in Yueaxie's image) that's different.

Are you really saying it's racist if someone excludes an entire race from their dating pool?
It's not because of a preconceived stereotype. Maybe it's just because they're not attracted to <insert generic race here> people.

I am cursed with being attracted to everyone but if I wasn't attracted to a specific race I would be open about it. Furries, if I had a dating profile it would say "furries need not apply".

Being friends is different from dating, getting to know someone is irrelevant if you're not attracted to them.