I was wrong

[rado84]

I trust that you've been able to make some really nice friendships as a result?

I have.

[Joods]

That is awesome

[Alex K]

Remarkable!

[robvalue]

Yes I remember you, welcome back to the forum

That's really great. It's a big thing to admit when you are wrong, I'm impressed. I'm glad you have had some positive experiences that have made you feel differently.

[Excited Penguin]

I didn't say anything people didn't say here about Christians, jokingly or no. So don't give me that. Just don't.


I know most of them are normal people. I'm not an idiot. This is simply an outburst.

They are normal people. That's the whole point. There's nothing out of the ordinary about calling them a bunch of cunts. I could say the same about Christians, like some others did, and no one would bat an eyelid. Yet if we talk about Muslims the same way, suddenly something doesn't sit right. Why is that? Bigotry of low expectations? Can anyone see the irony in that?

You asked for 1.6 billion people to fuck off and die. If you called for all chritans to fuck off and die I would ask you to calm down for the same reasons. I am not defending Islam I am defending people who happen to be Islamic from being labelled evil because of your prejudiced views.

First of all, your excuse is pathetic, and I'll tell you why. But before I do that, let me just add, that this here is a heated topic for me, so please don't take my tone personally and don't get offended. So I apologize for what I just said and what I'm about to say.

I've seen with my own two eyes posts about putting Catholics in jail or killing them outright. Posts that got kudos, both of them if I remember correctly. I've seen similar posts in the more distant past as well. So I'm just not going to believe you when you say you'd react the same to an attack on Christians. I just won't. You're just saying that because I pointed out the elephanty double standard in the room.

My labeling them evil is right on. They are evil because they subscribe to an evil religion. Just like Christians are. Only Muslims are far worse.

I cannot stress this enough. Islam is an ideology, not a birthright. It's not a race. It's not something you get born into. It's a set of ideas. It's a very backwards, violent and idiotic set of ideas that is holding society back, just like most religions are. Islam is the worst, though.

Should people be pressured into disavowing those ideas? Yes, they should. Should they be treated like holocaust deniers in public? Yes, definitely.

Your problem is, I think, you're reading more in my words than there is there to be read. I'm nothing if not honest and straightforward, so go ahead and ask me whatever ridiculous notion you happen to be thinking about me right now. I don't know, something like do I actually feel violent towards Muslims as a group? Do I really want them killed?

Do I even need to answer that, or are you going to admit just how silly those kinds of questions are?

[downbeatplumb]

You asked for 1.6 billion people to fuck off and die. If you called for all chritans to fuck off and die I would ask you to calm down for the same reasons. I am not defending Islam I am defending people who happen to be Islamic from being labelled evil because of your prejudiced views.

First of all, your excuse is pathetic, and I'll tell you why. But before I do that, let me just add, that this here is a heated topic for me, so please don't take my tone personally and don't get offended. So I apologize for what I just said and what I'm about to say.

I've seen with my own two eyes posts about putting Catholics in jail or killing them outright. Posts that got kudos, both of them if I remember correctly.

Lets have a look at these posts in context and look at who kudos'd them.

I've seen similar posts in the more distant past as well. So I'm just not going to believe you when you say you'd react the same to an attack on Christians. I just won't. You're just saying that because I pointed out the elephanty double standard in the room.

I do not have double standards and regularly stick up for people condemning groups rather than individuals.

My labeling them evil is right on. They are evil because they subscribe to an evil religion. Just like Christians are. Only Muslims are far worse.

There you go again, using lazy stereotypes.

I cannot stress this enough. Islam is an ideology, not a birthright. It's not a race. It's not something you get born into.

Really are you that dense. The majority of Muslims are Muslims precisely for that reason.

It's a set of ideas. It's a very backwards, violent and idiotic set of ideas that is holding society back, just like most religions are. Islam is the worst, though.

And most Muslims don't whole heartedly endorse all of it like adherents of every other religion.

Should people be pressured into disavowing those ideas? Yes, they should. Should they be treated like holocaust deniers in public? Yes, definitely.

Your problem is, I think, you're reading more in my words than there is there to be read. I'm nothing if not honest and straightforward, so go ahead and ask me whatever ridiculous notion you happen to be thinking about me right now. I don't know, something like do I actually feel violent towards Muslims as a group? Do I really want them killed?

Do you really believe that all Muslims are evil?
Do you fear all Muslims?


Do I even need to answer that, or are you going to admit just how silly those kinds of questions are?

[Excited Penguin]

Why don't you imagine for a second that I'm not that dense, and then read my comments again in that light. This will save us both some time. So the next time you want to get in a conversation with me, how about you don't insult my intelligence right from the get-go and instead act like you're talking to a fellow intelligent human being.

[brewer]

OP, Welcome back! Did not know why you left, just that you were absent.

Now, back away from my muscle (car)   hehehehe

[Excited Penguin]

Op, sorry for biting your head off and slightly derailing your thread there for a while.

Join us in the movie thread, I remember you enjoyed watching movies. I promise you it's going to be fun and nothing about Islam whatsoever.

[downbeatplumb]

Why don't you imagine for a second that I'm not that dense, and then read my comments again in that light. This will save us both some time. So the next time you want to get in a conversation with me, how about you don't insult my intelligence right from the get-go and instead act like you're talking to a fellow intelligent human being.

I did not insult your intelligence, I said that on the evidence provided you were prejudiced against muslims.
Do you argue with that statement?