Another Police Shooting

[RobertE]

Could you find the statistics as to how many of the cops that were there for each fatal shooting were actually black and didn't do anything to stop it? I mean, any reasonable police partner who has real value on life would speak to his partner in question.

This is a red herring.  Do you deny that the vast majority of people killed by cops in the US are black?  Do you deny that we have video footage of maybe a dozen killings in the past year alone, and that each and every one of the cops responsible walked away with a slap on the wrist?

It is not a red-herring of any sorts, since the point is still there about police shootings and black people. However, all I was doing was asking for specifics i.e. percentages of white cops killing black people and percentages of black cops killing black people. Secondly, where did I make any denial? Show me and I will correct it. I am intrigued.

[abaris]

However, all I was doing was asking for specifics i.e. percentages of white cops killing black people and percentages of black cops killing black people.

So, pardon my french: Move your ass and look it up. There are lots of groups collecting the stats. Wonder why everyone comes looking for something and expects others to do their homework.

[RobertE]

Richard Pryor, Barack Obama, Denzel Washington, Magic Johnson, Will Smith, Eddie Murphy, Jamie Foxx, Cuba Gooding Jnr, Diana Ross, Sammy Davis Junior etc etc ad nauseum I guess are just a few of the exceptions to the rule then? How many of the above walked around with a loaded gun or automatic weapon?

I would care to wager some of them have been needlessly harassed by the police for no reason. In fact lets see what Richard Pryor, your first example, says about the subject:

Yeah, a guy that was only sentenced to 10 days for income tax fraud. Not like Heidi Fleiss who got 37 months or Al Capone who got 11 years. I can see how the last two were privileged.

[RobertE]

However, all I was doing was asking for specifics i.e. percentages of white cops killing black people and percentages of black cops killing black people.

So, pardon my french: Move your ass and look it up. There are lots of groups collecting the stats. Wonder why everyone comes looking for something and expects others to do their homework.

Je lui ai demandé de faire. S'il n'a pas envie, ce n'est pas mon problème. I asked him the question, he has to answer it. Google is his friend. 

[CapnAwesome]

This is a red herring.  Do you deny that the vast majority of people killed by cops in the US are black?  Do you deny that we have video footage of maybe a dozen killings in the past year alone, and that each and every one of the cops responsible walked away with a slap on the wrist?

It is not a red-herring of any sorts, since the point is still there about police shootings and black people. However, all I was doing was asking for specifics i.e. percentages of white cops killing black people and percentages of black cops killing black people. Secondly, where did I make any denial? Show me and I will correct it. I am intrigued.

According to the most recent census data, there are nearly 160 million more white people in America than there are black people. White people make up roughly 62 percent of the U.S. population but only about 49 percent of those who are killed by police officers. African Americans, however, account for 24 percent of those fatally shot and killed by the police despite being just 13 percent of the U.S. population. As The Post noted in a new analysis published last week, that means black Americans are 2.5 times as likely as white Americans to be shot and killed by police officers.

U.S. police officers have shot and killed the exact same number of unarmed white people as they have unarmed black people: 50 each. But because the white population is approximately five times larger than the black population, that means unarmed black Americans were five times as likely as unarmed white Americans to be shot and killed by a police officer .

The bold is mine. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post...bc13c9ddfd

[The Grand Nudger]

They're at war.  Multiple wars, in fact.  They have the gear and mindset to match.  In that context it doesn't matter much whether or not it's the "bad apples", or that generally, cop culture is "good".  The circumstances in which they operate make the sorts of things we see as deplorable an inevitability not at all related to which side of the good cop/bad cop line a person falls on...if there's a line at all.

[abaris]

Je lui ai demandé de faire. S'il n'a pas envie, ce n'est pas mon problème. I asked him the question, he has to answer it. Google is his friend. 

Thanks for translating, but I'm fine with the original, thank you very much.

I could pull the numbers out of my ass, since there were numerous times I saw them. On tv as well as vids, as well as websites. I didn't bookmark them or anything, since I assume if anyone wants to know, they can look it up by themselves.

[RobertE]

It is not a red-herring of any sorts, since the point is still there about police shootings and black people. However, all I was doing was asking for specifics i.e. percentages of white cops killing black people and percentages of black cops killing black people. Secondly, where did I make any denial? Show me and I will correct it. I am intrigued.

According to the most recent census data, there are nearly 160 million more white people in America than there are black people. White people make up roughly 62 percent of the U.S. population but only about 49 percent of those who are killed by police officers. African Americans, however, account for 24 percent of those fatally shot and killed by the police despite being just 13 percent of the U.S. population. As The Post noted in a new analysis published last week, that means black Americans are 2.5 times as likely as white Americans to be shot and killed by police officers.

U.S. police officers have shot and killed the exact same number of unarmed white people as they have unarmed black people: 50 each. But because the white population is approximately five times larger than the black population, that means unarmed black Americans were five times as likely as unarmed white Americans to be shot and killed by a police officer .

The bold is mine. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post...bc13c9ddfd

The Population as it stands for the United States is 324,023,207.

Broken down as follows:

White     234,625,204 or 72.41%
Black:     40,859,326 or 12.61%
Asian:     15,391,102 or 4.75%
American Indian: 3,078,220 or 0.95%

Using "The counted", which is a reasonable site for statistics for those killed by police.

Out of 596 people killed by police so far;

49.3%   of white people have been shot and killed by police this year.
24.66% of black people have been shot and killed by police this year.
2.13% of Asians have been shot and killed by police this year.
2.18% of native Americans have been shot and killed by police this year.

These statistics can be verified if needs be.

[RobertE]

Je lui ai demandé de faire. S'il n'a pas envie, ce n'est pas mon problème. I asked him the question, he has to answer it. Google is his friend. 

Thanks for translating, but I'm fine with the original, thank you very much.

I could pull the numbers out of my ass, since there were numerous times I saw them. On tv as well as vids, as well as websites. I didn't bookmark them or anything, since I assume if anyone wants to know, they can look it up by themselves.

Didn't Science ever teach you to be analytical? As long as he doesn't analyse the statistics in greater depth, he will stick with his opinion which is a shame, because it is open to debate. Furthermore, just like my statistics, they can be skewed, it just depends where you get the stats from. If it is from a extreme left wing liberal website or extreme right wing, the statistics can be skewed, just like the media. If you cannot cross-reference and analyse statistics, then there is no hope.

[RobertE]

Yeah, they are exceptions.... certainly not the rule.

This man is a US Senator.  Granted he's a republicunt fuckwit but that only makes his point more profound.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/13/politics/t...profiling/

Sen. Tim Scott of South Carolina -- who is the only African-American Republican in U.S. Senate -- delivered an emotional floor speech Wednesday about the unfair police scrutiny he has faced over his life because he is a black man.

"In the course of one year, I've been stopped seven times by law enforcement," Scott said. "Not four, not five, not six, but seven times in one year as an elected official."

Herein lies the problem. Letting your own political leanings get in the way of being objective. Just to add, I have no political leanings, just as I don't affiliate with any religious organisation. If I don't like something that the left or right have done, then I will speak out about it.