Left-wing extremists terrorise customers at London restaurant

[Homeless Nutter]

Extreme left and the extreme right are both threats. Simple.

Eh... Everything seems simple, when you're too simple-minded to see nuance and have a political ideology that tells you what to think, doesn't it. Yeah - you have fun living in a cartoon for particularly dim children, but one day, when you're asking why no one takes you seriously - this is probably why.

[account_inactive]

Extreme left and the extreme right are both threats. Simple.

Eh... Everything seems simple, when you're too simple-minded to see nuance and have a political ideology that tells you what to think, doesn't it. Yeah - you have fun living in a cartoon for particularly dim children, but one day, when you're asking why no one takes you seriously - this is probably why.

Thank you.

[Losty]

Gross what a bunch of fucking idiots

[CapnAwesome]

Nobody claimed this was the worst the extreme left has done. It's certainly not the best, and you can look forward to more threads from me soon.

Extreme left and the extreme right are both threats. Simple.

All I'm saying is that you're going to have to come up with some pretty nasty stuff on the extreme left to prove that they're equal threats.

I guess I can't really comment how it is over in the UK, but as far as over here in the states is concerned, the two sides aren't even close.

The extreme left in the United States hasn't been particularly active lately. However historically there has been plenty of left wing terrorism and globally it's still a reality from the Tamil Tigers to the FARC in Columbia, there is plenty of left wing terrorism in the world. In reality, there isn't that much right wing terrorism in the United States right now either. Definitely more then the left, but still not much. If people who didn't kill anybody in Oregon is the worst of right wing terrorism, I can live with that.

[CapnAwesome]

Of course I also think that Islamic terrorism is right-wing terrorism to a certain degree. Socially you don't get more right wing then radical Islam. Even moderate Muslims would be extremely right wing by western standards. That's why I will never fully understand how some left wing people defend Islam.

[Thumpalumpacus]

I also think that the recent spate of cop-sniping in America is a form of terrorism.

Also, I'm on my.phone and cannot conveniently link right now, but I'm pretty sure "terrorism" is defined as the use of violence or intimidation in order to obtain a political end. Given that, the takeover in Oregon was indeed terrorism.

[CapnAwesome]

I also think that the recent spate of cop-sniping in America is a form of terrorism.

Also, I'm on my.phone and cannot conveniently link right now, but I'm pretty sure "terrorism" is defined as the use of violence or intimidation in order to obtain a political end. Given that, the takeover in Oregon was indeed terrorism.

Meh, call it what you will but if it doesn't result in any deaths or injuries or even property destruction, I'm just really not worried about it.

[Thumpalumpacus]

I also think that the recent spate of cop-sniping in America is a form of terrorism.

Also, I'm on my.phone and cannot conveniently link right now, but I'm pretty sure "terrorism" is defined as the use of violence or intimidation in order to obtain a political end. Given that, the takeover in Oregon was indeed terrorism.

Meh, call it what you will but if it doesn't result in any deaths or injuries or even property destruction, I'm just really not worried about it.

Well, the Oregon takeover did involve property destruction -- private and public iirc. And it could easily have been bloodier than the one death which arose from it. Me, I've got a problem with anyone who points a gun at someone and says "do as I order or else." Terrorism or no, it's obnoxious. When it has a political goal, even more so, because it is an attempt to subvert the process we as a society have agreed on to resolve civic disputes. If you're not worried about that, I don't know what else to say.

[Losty]

Yeah, saying they simply "went camping with guns" is completely disingenuous bullshit.  They commandeered a federal building by threatening violence with guns and vowed to fight to the death if needed.  What would you call that?  And I'm sure it had quite the effect on the people working at the preserve.

If the best that people can come up with to demonize the extreme left is a group throwing bugs in a restaurant, there is clearly an extreme disparity between the lengths that the extreme right and the extreme left will go to.

and who exactly did those guys terrorize or commit violence against? Oh yeah, no one. Throwing bugs in soup is more then any of them did. But for the record, neither of them are terrorists. I'd be extremely cautious about expanding the definition of terrorism beyond a very very strict definition. Especially considering that both presidential candidates want to shut down 'terrorist speech' and websites. Also calling it a federal building is only correct in a technical sense. It was an uninhabited station in the middle of nowhere. I'm more concerned about crickets in my soup then those guys. Which is to say, not at all.

I debated sending them candy dicks but it seemed like they already had enough...
http://mashable.com/2016/01/13/oregon-mi...KaLnduqmqy

[Regina]

Is anyone else questioning why the fuck these people took their anger out on... le restaurant... for getting raided?

I mean surely the anger should be towards the police? All the restaurant did was hire immigrants and get busted for having illegals. Why the anger towards them if you're so pro-immigrant?