The Election is Rigged (I'm Going To Lose)

[I_am_not_mafia]

[Pat Mustard]

Republicans have rigged two presidential elections already this century.

*Eyeroll* If you are talking about things like trying to manipulate the number of voters that come out in certain places and stuff like that, that happens on both sides every election, it's hardly the same as rigging an election. What Hillary did with superdelegates all being declared for her early is more then any general election shenanigans, so we know she's not beyond it morally.  I'm talking about genuine fraud with voting machines and the like.

Since Trump wasn't clear what he meant by rigged, we can't be sure either.

No I'm talking about the disenfranchisement of a170,000 voters from demographics who vote Democrat by large majorities in Florida in 2000, all of which happened in the year leading up to the election, at least half of whom were removed fraudulently under Florida state law. Shrub's "margin of victory" was c. 500 votes, yet there were nearly 90,000 voters illegally stopped from exercising their democratic rights. So yeah, saying 2000 wasn't stolen is not looking at the facts as they stand.

And then in 2004 Floridan tactics were spread to other Republican states (and New Mexico, whose Democrat party was fighting a vicious civil war between the Richardson Mexicans and the actual minorities), plus you've got the whole problem of Ohio, where in addition to voter scrub lists, faulty machines and fewer booths in Democrat leaning districts which had larger populations of voters than Republican leaning districts you had such democratic practises as counties returning a >100% vote for Shrub and recorded instances of zombies rising from their graves in favour of Shrub. So yeah, on any objective reading of the evidence available that's two elections stolen.

And note I haven't even mentioned the baseless lies denigrating opponents spread by the Shrub camp in either election. Even if there wasn't any active fraud taking place on the electoral process, that alone is enough to prove that the Shrub camp engaged in criminal activities to influence the election.

[Alex K]

It's over - Clint Eastwood has endorsed the Donald!

[Crossless2.0]

It's over - Clint Eastwood has endorsed the Donald!

First he talks to an empty chair. Now he endorses an empty suit.

Stick to making movies, Clint.

[Alex K]

Ssht, I'm still hoping for a Hillary's Chair performance.

[Crossless2.0]

Ssht, I'm still hoping for a Hillary's Chair performance.

Damn. For just a moment, I had a vision of Hillary performing a lap dance. 

Brain bleach, STAT!

[Jackalope]

Ssht, I'm still hoping for a Hillary's Chair performance.

Damn. For just a moment, I had a vision of Hillary performing a lap dance. 

Brain bleach, STAT!

Why? Why did you do this to me?

Why?

[Crossless2.0]

Damn. For just a moment, I had a vision of Hillary performing a lap dance. 

Brain bleach, STAT!

Why?   Why did you do this to me?

Why?

Because 

[Minimalist]

[CapnAwesome]

*Eyeroll* If you are talking about things like trying to manipulate the number of voters that come out in certain places and stuff like that, that happens on both sides every election, it's hardly the same as rigging an election. What Hillary did with superdelegates all being declared for her early is more then any general election shenanigans, so we know she's not beyond it morally.  I'm talking about genuine fraud with voting machines and the like.

Since Trump wasn't clear what he meant by rigged, we can't be sure either.

No I'm talking about the disenfranchisement of a170,000 voters from demographics who vote Democrat by large majorities in Florida in 2000, all of which happened in the year leading up to the election, at least half of whom were removed fraudulently under Florida state law. Shrub's "margin of victory" was c. 500 votes, yet there were nearly 90,000 voters illegally stopped from exercising their democratic rights. So yeah, saying 2000 wasn't stolen is not looking at the facts as they stand.

And then in 2004 Floridan tactics were spread to other Republican states (and New Mexico, whose Democrat party was fighting a vicious civil war between the Richardson Mexicans and the actual minorities), plus you've got the whole problem of Ohio, where in addition to voter scrub lists, faulty machines and fewer booths in Democrat leaning districts which had larger populations of voters than Republican leaning districts you had such democratic practises as counties returning a >100% vote for Shrub and recorded instances of zombies rising from their graves in favour of Shrub. So yeah, on any objective reading of the evidence available that's two elections stolen.

And note I haven't even mentioned the baseless lies denigrating opponents spread by the Shrub camp in either election. Even if there wasn't any active fraud taking place on the electoral process, that alone is enough to prove that the Shrub camp engaged in criminal activities to influence the election.

Voter suppression happens all the time on both sides. The same year that Bush's team clearly did voter surpression in Florida, so did Al Gore. Before people in the panhandle, which overwhelmingly leans Republican, Al Gore had falsely claimed victory, which CNN had reported. How many people didn't go out and vote because of that? That shit happens every year by both sides. You'd have to be naive in the extreme to think only one side does it. Hillary Clinton did it to Bernie Sanders voters by pretending that the election wasn't that close constantly on the news. I know Republicans who believe only Democrats do it. In fact there was a whole book written about Democrats and voter suppression tactics. The fact that you only know the Republican side of things is kind of telling.

That's not what I'm talking about anyway.