Donald Trump has been officially declared a loser.

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I also think their naming conventions are changing -- their most recent class of submarine is the Soryu class, named after various dragons; names which were reserved for carriers in WWII.

This is quite possible. If anything gets named Hiryu, then i'm fairly sure they've changed their convention up a little, as that's one of the other WW2 carriers. Or Yamato/Musashi.

Anyway, why does it matter that they have a military of sorts? They've came a long way as people since WW2 and aren't gonna pull any crazy shit without US permission first

Nobody needs US permission for anything. The US's domination of the world is slowly but surely crumbling. Japan and Germany should just change their constitutions and rearm themselves properly.

Plus, nobody trusts each other - even allies. Everyone is always spying on each other.

[LastPoet]

That's the thing, you never really know.  Even amongst allies and putative friends there are degrees of mistrust, and for good reason.

The best way to stab someone on the back is by hugging?

[Anomalocaris]

A friend is an enemy will suffer more from stabbing you then from embracing you, and who is aware of this.

Trust is confidence in the ability to inflict unacceptable pain if the subject of trust were to cross you.

So there are definitely friends and trust in international relationship.

[Brian37]

Well now he is insulting the Japanese.  Apparently, he doesn't want us to have any allies at all.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/08/...atch-sony/

Donald Trump has attacked Japan, one of America's closest allies, stating that if the US is attacked, all Japan would do is "sit home and watch Sony television".

He expressed his frustration that the US is bound by treaty to defend the Asian nation but that if the United States is attacked, the Japanese cannot help because of Article 9, which constitutionally forbids it to send armed forces overseas.

He said that it "could be necessary" for the US to walk away from the treaty - or at least threaten to do so.

Of course, Japan with the blessing of the US reinterpreted Art. 9 to allow flexibility for their Self-Defense Forces so, as usual, Drumpf doesn't know what the fuck he is talking about.

Yea and he's fucking with the wrong person with me, I take that shit personally because my X wife is Japanese, and her parents and her grand parents were old enough and close enough to that war and both sides know and accept the tragedy it was. Japan is our close ally and to say that is absurd and sick.

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Well now he is insulting the Japanese.  Apparently, he doesn't want us to have any allies at all.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/08/...atch-sony/

Donald Trump has attacked Japan, one of America's closest allies, stating that if the US is attacked, all Japan would do is "sit home and watch Sony television".

He expressed his frustration that the US is bound by treaty to defend the Asian nation but that if the United States is attacked, the Japanese cannot help because of Article 9, which constitutionally forbids it to send armed forces overseas.

He said that it "could be necessary" for the US to walk away from the treaty - or at least threaten to do so.

Of course, Japan with the blessing of the US reinterpreted Art. 9 to allow flexibility for their Self-Defense Forces so, as usual, Drumpf doesn't know what the fuck he is talking about.

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Wow, he really can't keep his fucking mouth shut.

[bennyboy]

Yea and he's fucking with the wrong person with me, I take that shit personally because my X wife is Japanese, and her parents and her grand parents were old enough and close enough to that war and both sides know and accept the tragedy it was. Japan is our close ally and to say that is absurd and sick.

Tragedy? For Japan? You fucking kidding?

No. It was a tragedy for the fucking hundreds of thousands of Koreans, Chinese, Filipinos etc. that Japan murdered and raped, and for the many thousands of good Americans who died fighting those evils fucks.

I've personally talked to Korean comfort women, who were sent to the Japanese front lines and systematically raped (we're talking time sheets, here), at the age of 13 or 14. THAT's fucking tragedy.

Now, you're not wrong about Japan and America being allies, and Trump is out of line. On that point, you are perfectly correct. But nobody gets to talk about the tragedy of Japan in WWII.

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Yea and he's fucking with the wrong person with me, I take that shit personally because my X wife is Japanese, and her parents and her grand parents were old enough and close enough to that war and both sides know and accept the tragedy it was. Japan is our close ally and to say that is absurd and sick.

Tragedy?  For Japan?  You fucking kidding?

No.  It was a tragedy for the fucking hundreds of thousands of Koreans, Chinese, Filipinos etc. that Japan murdered and raped, and for the many thousands of good Americans who died fighting those evils fucks.

I've personally talked to Korean comfort women, who were sent to the Japanese front lines and systematically raped (we're talking time sheets, here), at the age of 13 or 14.  THAT's fucking tragedy.

Now, you're not wrong about Japan and America being allies, and Trump is out of line.  On that point, you are perfectly correct.  But nobody gets to talk about the tragedy of Japan in WWII.

Japan had fucking nuclear bombs dropped on them. Are you really trying to argue that the war wasn't a tragedy for the Japanese as well?

[Thumpalumpacus]

I'd call any bombing that kills 80,000 civilians "tragic", no matter whose flag was on the airplane that dropped it.

And I'll talk about it if I goddamned well please.

[Minimalist]

Here's a guy who fully understands what side of the bread is buttered for him.

http://www.rawstory.com/2016/08/leader-o...ty-for-us/

Leader of American Nazi Party: Trump win will be ‘a real opportunity’ for us

[Anomalocaris]

Tragedy?  For Japan?  You fucking kidding?

No.  It was a tragedy for the fucking hundreds of thousands of Koreans, Chinese, Filipinos etc. that Japan murdered and raped, and for the many thousands of good Americans who died fighting those evils fucks.

I've personally talked to Korean comfort women, who were sent to the Japanese front lines and systematically raped (we're talking time sheets, here), at the age of 13 or 14.  THAT's fucking tragedy.

Now, you're not wrong about Japan and America being allies, and Trump is out of line.  On that point, you are perfectly correct.  But nobody gets to talk about the tragedy of Japan in WWII.

Japan had fucking nuclear bombs dropped on them. Are you really trying to argue that the war wasn't a tragedy for the Japanese as well?

Yes.  Let's pretend the tragedy inflicted on those who had been on the side of the fucking victimizers by those acting to liberate the victims entitles those on the side of the victimizers to the same legitimate grievance as those whom had been their victims.