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If your a Christian is it worth praying?
August 15, 2010 at 6:38 pm
What does it mean to pray to god? If god existed his attributes include omniscience and timelessness. If god lives in a timeless realm he will not hear prayers as he has no internal processes because he is in stasis. He will know what is going to happen and has already set the universe up to decide all our fates in advance. He cannot act as he is immatrial and cannot enter a material universe. As if to prove the point all double blind trials into prayer has demonstrated that it has no effect ie it is unsuccessful.
The only way to rationalise all of this is to assume there is no god to pray too.
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RE: If your a Christian is it worth praying?
August 15, 2010 at 6:39 pm
If you're a Christian it's no more worth praying than if you're not. Either way God almost certainly doesn't exist so you're wasting your time.
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RE: If your a Christian is it worth praying?
August 15, 2010 at 6:41 pm
No. Praying was created to make you have hope for something. Same idea as heaven. But most Christians are too stupid to realize this.
Trudging through endless religion one step at a time.
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RE: If your a Christian is it worth praying?
August 15, 2010 at 7:19 pm
(This post was last modified: August 15, 2010 at 7:38 pm by DiRNiS.)
Praying is basically talking to your imaginary friend or talking to yourself.
In reality if you do this, you would be considered insane. However, tagging the word "praying" to it suddenly makes it OK.
Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...
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RE: If your a Christian is it worth praying?
August 15, 2010 at 7:48 pm
Xtian God again.
God is interacting with the universe at every moment. He interacts within our time line responding to our choices. That our choices are already known to him does not take away our ability to act as free agents.
God can and does interact with the universe. Proof of any kind would be contradictory to the precepts of the religion.
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RE: If your a Christian is it worth praying?
August 16, 2010 at 9:03 pm
We can't know what God thinks because we're not privvy to all knowledge as he is. Therefore our assumptions on the results of testing fall short on necessary information to draw conclusions from.
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RE: If your a Christian is it worth praying?
August 17, 2010 at 12:57 pm
God has often answered my prayers and those of many other people I know.
(August 15, 2010 at 6:38 pm)Captain Scarlet Wrote: As if to prove the point all double blind trials into prayer has demonstrated that it has no effect ie it is unsuccessful.
Prayer isn't something that can be proved or disproved by scientific experiments. Science can only measure impersonal physical phenomena. Prayer is communication with God and whether a specific prayer is answered depends on whether or not God chooses to answer it.
His invisible attributes, namely, his eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly perceived, ever since the creation of the world, in the things that have been made. So they are without excuse.
Romans 1:20 ESV