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RE: Afterlife
August 15, 2016 at 6:58 am
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(August 15, 2016 at 6:45 am)Arkilogue Wrote: Just going by the biblical definition of what faith actually is, not by modern bastardized colloquialism.
Hebrews 11:1 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.
Substance and evidence are not made by man's belief, It is either there or not there.
Ephesians 2:8: "For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God"
Again, "not of yourselves" aka not man made belief.
You;re not speaking to a person who puts any stock into the bible, or the trendy catchlines of modern christian reconstructionism. Magic book also defines bats as birds. I think that you should leave it to webster.
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RE: Afterlife
August 15, 2016 at 7:03 am
(August 15, 2016 at 6:52 am)Alex K Wrote: (August 15, 2016 at 6:45 am)Arkilogue Wrote: Very interesting, thank you! So in this explanation, the condensation of quark-gluon plasma into hadrons "leaves behind" a certain amount of energy in a universe wide field and this is the 5x more dark matter influence on the rest of matter? Is there anything in this theory that directly predicts the 1 to 5 ratio?
Yes, that's roughly what would happen if that were the correct explanation: The energy in the axion field gets "frozen" once quantum chromodynamics develops a condensate. The 1:5 ratio is not exactly a completely fixed prediction, but it is plausible because the energy scale of the Axion field for which this ratio comes out correctly is very close to the energy scale which would explain the Neutrino masses and unification of forces, and these things *could* be related, but that's still speculative. Fortunately, the axion hypothesis is testable directly via detectors, so we don't have to rely on these somewhat shaky theoretical arguments. Greatly appreciate the new info and avenues of study!
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RE: Afterlife
August 15, 2016 at 7:03 am
You're welcome
The fool hath said in his heart, There is a God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
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RE: Afterlife
August 15, 2016 at 7:04 am
Most likely scenario seems to be nothing happens. When you're dead, your brain stops functioning and you get recycled. End of story.
Everything else is speculation not based on evidence.
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RE: Afterlife
August 15, 2016 at 7:10 am
(August 15, 2016 at 6:58 am)Rhythm Wrote: (August 15, 2016 at 6:45 am)Arkilogue Wrote: Just going by the biblical definition of what faith actually is, not by modern bastardized colloquialism.
Hebrews 11:1 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.
Substance and evidence are not made by man's belief, It is either there or not there.
Ephesians 2:8: "For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God"
Again, "not of yourselves" aka not man made belief.
You;re not speaking to a person who puts any stock into the bible, or the trendy catchlines of modern christian reconstructionism. Magic book also defines bats as birds. I think that you should leave it to webster. Merely pointing out that in the cultural milieu the word "faith" rose out of, it did not mean man made belief like it's used erroneously today.
And that in my use of the word, I mean the substance and evidence of things invisible to the eye.
That is all.
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RE: Afterlife
August 15, 2016 at 7:15 am
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"I'd like to begin by arguing aginst words an sich"
Yep, that -is- all, isn't it?
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RE: Afterlife
August 15, 2016 at 7:22 am
(August 15, 2016 at 6:57 am)Arkilogue Wrote: I've been laying forth the case in a predictive model with supporting evidence here: http://atheistforums.org/thread-44634-po...pid1363757
Just explained/predicted the dark energy constant to within .5%
Yeah, great - I'm totally convinced you're a genius now, but sadly I don't have much influence on the Nobel Prize Committee. You need to run your efforts by those pesky scientists, you know - the people who know about this stuff and who's job it is to evaluate validity of your "evidence", "explanations" and "predictions"... Good luck with that, Galileo Galilei. 
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RE: Afterlife
August 15, 2016 at 7:31 am
(August 15, 2016 at 7:22 am)Homeless Nutter Wrote: (August 15, 2016 at 6:57 am)Arkilogue Wrote: I've been laying forth the case in a predictive model with supporting evidence here: http://atheistforums.org/thread-44634-po...pid1363757
Just explained/predicted the dark energy constant to within .5%
Yeah, great - I'm totally convinced you're a genius now, but sadly I don't have much influence on the Nobel Prize Committee. You need to run your efforts by those pesky scientists, you know - the people who know about this stuff and who's job it is to evaluate validity of your "evidence", "explanations" and "predictions"... Good luck with that, Galileo Galilei. But then I will be rich famous and have no time for our lovely little chats, so let us enjoy the limited time we have together.
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RE: Afterlife
August 15, 2016 at 7:35 am
(August 15, 2016 at 4:47 am)Alex K Wrote: (August 15, 2016 at 4:46 am)Arkilogue Wrote: But during "standstill", Pam's brain was found "dead" by all three clinical tests - her electroencephalogram was silent, her brain-stem response was absent, and no blood flowed through her brain.[/b] Interestingly, while in this state, she encountered the "deepest" NDE of all Atlanta Study participants."
How do you know that it was *while in this state* that she had this experience?
Ark, why did you avoid this question?
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RE: Afterlife
August 15, 2016 at 7:38 am
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(August 15, 2016 at 7:35 am)RozKek Wrote: (August 15, 2016 at 4:47 am)Alex K Wrote: How do you know that it was *while in this state* that she had this experience?
Ark, why did you avoid this question?
Because he's not really here to have a conversation. He's here to dance around and throw glitter that he calls gold. I may like a good joke, but this is just disruptive nonsense.
I don't believe you. Get over it.
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