Anjem Choudary guilty of inviting IS support

[InsaneDane]

Fuck this prick.

If I'm not mistaken, he's the moron who said that: "The black flag of ISIS will fly over Copenhagen" on a TV-show.

He also said the black flag would fly over London.

Basically he wants everyone to bow down to Islam.

Yeah, now a well-placed accidental "drone strike" while this guy is alone in the prison-yard would be in it's place.

We're way too soft with immigration and foreign intend here in Europe.
While we have leftists cry for "unity" and staying open-minded, this guy and people like him are swaying more and more young radicals to do dumb shit in the name of "Allah".

This guy is only one of many radicals who are allowed to preach their extremism openly in Europe, or in many cases protected by the communities they reside in.

There was a Danish documentary on TV recently, showing how many Imams in mosques are promoting non-secularism and even encouraging men to hit their relatives (And women to accept it and not report it), and the collective of imams are just sweeping it under the rug - Catholic-style.

Despicable that this is still a thing in the 21st century.

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Yeah, now a well-placed accidental "drone strike" while this guy is alone in the prison-yard would be in it's place.

We're way too soft with immigration and foreign intend here in Europe.
While we have leftists cry for "unity" and staying open-minded, this guy and people like him are swaying more and more young radicals to do dumb shit in the name of "Allah".

This guy is only one of many radicals who are allowed to preach their extremism openly in Europe, or in many cases protected by the communities they reside in.

There was a Danish documentary on TV recently, showing how many Imams in mosques are promoting non-secularism and even encouraging men to hit their relatives (And women to accept it and not report it), and the collective of imams are just sweeping it under the rug - Catholic-style.

Despicable that this is still a thing in the 21st century.

Spot on!

[Mr Greene]

Five and a half years in isolation.
Sentencing - BBC
Should have been longer, without possibility of early release.

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Five and a half years in isolation.
Sentencing - BBC
Should have been longer, without possibility of early release.

Five fucking years?

[Tiberius]

Five and a half years in isolation.
Sentencing - BBC
Should have been longer, without possibility of early release.

Five fucking years?

Honestly it's good that he got that many at least. Inciting people to support a terrorist group is a very passive crime, compared to, say, actually ordering people to commit terrorist attacks. Choudary knew (or thought he knew) where the line was drawn for years, and he only barely went over it this time.

Hopefully when he gets out he'll go off the rails completely and just get re-arrested.

[RobertE]

Five fucking years?

Honestly it's good that he got that many at least. Inciting people to support a terrorist group is a very passive crime, compared to, say, actually ordering people to commit terrorist attacks. Choudary knew (or thought he knew) where the line was drawn for years, and he only barely went over it this time.

Hopefully when he gets out he'll go off the rails completely and just get re-arrested.

Inciting people to join and forcing people to join either Islam or radical activities does happen a great deal in French prisons over here. So, although he got off scott-free in the sense of duration, he got 5 years isolation which could only be a positive sign. Fewer, if any prisoners will ever be radicalised by this scum.

[abaris]

Honestly it's good that he got that many at least. Inciting people to support a terrorist group is a very passive crime, compared to, say, actually ordering people to commit terrorist attacks. Choudary knew (or thought he knew) where the line was drawn for years, and he only barely went over it this time.

Well, people like him belong in jail. What I don't understand is all the cheering going on over this, as if it was a big game changing victory. It won't help. I'm watching all these news about killing #1, #2 or encarcerating this or that terrorist for over a decade now. And all I feel is contempt over the ones making this newsworthy. Good riddance, yes, but the situation hasn't exactly improved by killing all these people or putting them in jail. It's just another populous move, gorilla chest pounding style, to give the population something when in reality they haven't got anything going for them.

So, yes, he's in jail now. Good. Another one will take his place, and then another one and another one. There's a root problem to be adressed and the fact that the situation got worse over the last 15 years points to them doing it the wrong way.

[Napoléon]

Well, people like him belong in jail. What I don't understand is all the cheering going on over this, as if it was a big game changing victory.

Should we not celebrate or even be pleased when a hate inciting, evil man is brought to justice? Especially when he has quite flagrantly skirted the law over and over, often in the full view of the British public because it's reported all the time in the media?

It won't help. I'm watching all these news about killing #1, #2 or encarcerating this or that terrorist for over a decade now. And all I feel is contempt over the ones making this newsworthy. Good riddance, yes, but the situation hasn't exactly improved by killing all these people or putting them in jail. It's just another populous move, gorilla chest pounding style, to give the population something when in reality they haven't got anything going for them.

The ones making this newsworthy aren't 'populist movements', they're the news channels who put him on air and the fucking dumb arse debate programmes that entitle him to an elevated platform.

So, yes, he's in jail now. Good. Another one will take his place, and then another one and another one. There's a root problem to be adressed and the fact that the situation got worse over the last 15 years points to them doing it the wrong way.

Oh for feck sake, no one is celebrating this like we've just put a silver bullet in the head of Islamic Extremism as a whole. It is exactly what it is, pleasure in the fact that a scum bag has finally been brought to justice after flouting the law for years and supporting and being involved in murder and extremism.

If you aren't personally moved by it that's fine, but don't berate others for being pleased about it and expressing that.

[RobertE]

Honestly it's good that he got that many at least. Inciting people to support a terrorist group is a very passive crime, compared to, say, actually ordering people to commit terrorist attacks. Choudary knew (or thought he knew) where the line was drawn for years, and he only barely went over it this time.

Well, people like him belong in jail. What I don't understand is all the cheering going on over this, as if it was a big game changing victory. It won't help. I'm watching all these news about killing #1, #2 or encarcerating this or that terrorist for over a decade now. And all I feel is contempt over the ones making this newsworthy. Good riddance, yes, but the situation hasn't exactly improved by killing all these people or putting them in jail. It's just another populous move, gorilla chest pounding style, to give the population something when in reality they haven't got anything going for them.

So, yes, he's in jail now. Good. Another one will take his place, and then another one and another one. There's a root problem to be adressed and the fact that the situation got worse over the last 15 years points to them doing it the wrong way.

How do you catch those who are always on the verge of committing crime when they don't? It has been like this for Choudhary for years, and yes, it might not be much in the grand scheme of things, but one less of the street and off the media, the better it is. Perhaps, others of the Abrahamic faiths could just disappear like him, the world would be such a better place.

Off-topic, the nursery rhyme in my signature is "Humpty Dumpty." 

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Well, people like him belong in jail. What I don't understand is all the cheering going on over this, as if it was a big game changing victory.

Should we not celebrate or even be pleased when a hate inciting, evil man is brought to justice? Especially when he has quite flagrantly skirted the law over and over, often in the full view of the British public because it's reported all the time in the media?

It won't help. I'm watching all these news about killing #1, #2 or encarcerating this or that terrorist for over a decade now. And all I feel is contempt over the ones making this newsworthy. Good riddance, yes, but the situation hasn't exactly improved by killing all these people or putting them in jail. It's just another populous move, gorilla chest pounding style, to give the population something when in reality they haven't got anything going for them.

The ones making this newsworthy aren't 'populist movements', they're the news channels who put him on air and the fucking dumb arse debate programmes that entitle him to an elevated platform.

So, yes, he's in jail now. Good. Another one will take his place, and then another one and another one. There's a root problem to be adressed and the fact that the situation got worse over the last 15 years points to them doing it the wrong way.

Oh for feck sake, no one is celebrating this like we've just put a silver bullet in the head of Islamic Extremism as a whole. It is exactly what it is, pleasure in the fact that a scum bag has finally been brought to justice after flouting the law for years and supporting and being involved in murder and extremism.

If you aren't personally moved by it that's fine, but don't berate others for being pleased about it and expressing that.

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Spot on as always, Napo.