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Islam scientific miracles again
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RE: Islam scientific miracles again
What the fuck is so special about the 360 number? Because of degrees in a circle? 360 degrees (from what I've read) was an arbitrarily assigned number and could just as easily been 180 or 720. It could have been any other number. There is nothing godly or miraculous about 360.

If 360 has some other "special" significance let me know.
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#22
RE: Islam scientific miracles again
It's special significance is that it's a product of a system that turns your hands into an easily read calculator for doing math with larger numbers (in a similar way to multiplying by nine with your digits). That system is useful for all soprts of shit that was important at the "dawn of math" - like counting season lengths. We don't know why we did it, but we know why it stuck.
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RE: Islam scientific miracles again
(August 22, 2016 at 1:31 am)robvalue Wrote: I always have the same answer to this.

Let's say they knew something that it seems unlikely they would know. What does that tell us about how they knew it?

Nothing. It tells us nothing about how they knew it. The source is a further claim, which requires its own evidence. Saying its "from God" or whatever is just the argument from ignorance (you can't prove me wrong so I'm right).

As it happens, they didn't know anything surprising. They knew what you'd expect a bunch of people back then to know, and the rest is people feverishly retrofitting later scientific discoveries.

And also... one section of a book being true does not imply the whole book is true either. Even if that bit was inspired by a deity.
After a good research it's not even true the number isn't fix and even the number of bones isn't too it's just a figure used because it has two values an approximate number of joints which varies between 300-400 and also the degree of movement of the most important joints like the hip and the shoulder and now they regret it lol [FACE WITH TEARS OF JOY][FACE WITH TEARS OF JOY]
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huss97ein Wrote:Hey guys I'm new here [SMILING FACE WITH SMILING EYES]
There's this Hadith someone posted on Facebook about the number of joints being 360 and he sent some links and pics from seatle orthopedic center and other resources confirming the number frankly I don't usually believe these things but I wanted a disclaimer from an authentic source to be sure .
Aisha reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: Every one of the children of Adam has been created with three hundred and sixty joints; so he who declares the Glory of Allah, praises Allah, declares Allah to be One, Glorifies Allah, and seeks forgiveness from Allah, and removes stone, or thorn, or bone from people's path, and enjoins what is good and forbids from evil, to the number of those three hundred and sixty-four, will walk that day having removed himself from Hell.  (Translation of Sahih Muslim, The Book of Zakat (Kitab Al-Zakat), Book 005, Number 2199)"0
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Welcome huss97ein!

It wouldn't be a miracle to count the joints in a human corpse, but I don't think anyone can say it's exactly 360 because there isn't universal agreement on what counts as a joint. For instance, the Islamic count relies on counting the plates in our skulls as 'joints' where they fuse together.  I wouldn't call those joints, myself, but that could be an Arabic vs. English thing, that English speakers usually think of joints as bones that have some freedom of movement in relation to each other controlled by muscles.
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(August 22, 2016 at 12:28 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote:
huss97ein Wrote:Hey guys I'm new here [SMILING FACE WITH SMILING EYES]
There's this Hadith someone posted on Facebook about the number of joints being 360 and he sent some links and pics from seatle orthopedic center and other resources confirming the number frankly I don't usually believe these things but I wanted a disclaimer from an authentic source to be sure .
Aisha reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: Every one of the children of Adam has been created with three hundred and sixty joints; so he who declares the Glory of Allah, praises Allah, declares Allah to be One, Glorifies Allah, and seeks forgiveness from Allah, and removes stone, or thorn, or bone from people's path, and enjoins what is good and forbids from evil, to the number of those three hundred and sixty-four, will walk that day having removed himself from Hell.  (Translation of Sahih Muslim, The Book of Zakat (Kitab Al-Zakat), Book 005, Number 2199)"0
I'll appreciate your opinions and views on this matter.
Kind regards

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Welcome huss97ein!

It wouldn't be a miracle to count the joints in a human corpse, but I don't think anyone can say it's exactly 360 because there isn't universal agreement on what counts as a joint. For instance, the Islamic count relies on counting the plates in our skulls as 'joints' where they fuse together.  I wouldn't call those joints, myself, but that could be an Arabic vs. English thing, that English speakers usually think of joints as bones that have some freedom of movement in relation to each other controlled by muscles.
I'm a native Arabic speaker and it's the same a joint ''mafsal'' is the connection of two bones but these guys go back to the multiple meanings that normal people don't even know .
Anyway after a good research in history most of the texts in Islam are taken from the torah , the Talmud and the zend avesta even the five prayers are just like the Zoroastrianism relegion and the rest is the same as the Pagon relegions in mekka that's why I left it .

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