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RE: The top reasons people hate Hilary according to Newsweek
August 30, 2016 at 6:48 pm (This post was last modified: August 30, 2016 at 6:56 pm by Whateverist.)
(August 30, 2016 at 4:11 pm)ReptilianPeon Wrote: I just wanted to add that I hate both candidates equally because anybody accuses me once again of supporting Donald Trump.
I don't care who you like. I don't care if you support Trump. But if you don't and you are in your right mind, what are you willing to do to make sure the unthinkable won't happen?
2. In 2012 Gary Johnson got 1% of the vote, which got him 1,275,951 votes. Jill Stein is currently above 3% in the aggregate polling. So yes, she will get millions of votes, as I said.
Millions you say? Well, that's one way to get Trump elected.
RE: The top reasons people hate Hilary according to Newsweek
August 30, 2016 at 6:51 pm
(August 30, 2016 at 4:46 pm)abaris Wrote:
(August 30, 2016 at 4:37 pm)Minimalist Wrote: The choice is between Hillary and the orange shithead.
Deal with it.
Which in itself gives reason to call for a new electoral system.
In this country you can call for what you like, but nothing's happening unless you can over throw the system from within the system. "Separation of powers" was code for "status quo or die".
2. In 2012 Gary Johnson got 1% of the vote, which got him 1,275,951 votes. Jill Stein is currently above 3% in the aggregate polling. So yes, she will get millions of votes, as I said.
Millions you say? Well, that's one way to get Trump elected.
As several people have repeated several times before, if you don't live in a "swing state" your vote doesn't matter. Millions of votes for Jill Stein does not necessarily mean Donald Trump will be president. From my prospective (and I'm not really a fan of the centrist Bernie) the Democratic Party rigged the primaries, so people voting for the cheater Hilary are green-lighting with the rigging and the Democratic Party will not learn it's lesson. We now know Debbie Wasserman Schultz’s primary down in Florida against Tim Canova was rigged so they haven't changed one bit. This is of course after Debbie stepped down from the DNC after being found guilty. So the Democrats were not really sorry they rigged the primary in favour of Hilary.
For example, taken from link (Tim's personal website):
Quote:And now, to help rig her own election in the Democratic Primaries, Ms. Wasserman Schultz is blocking any challenger to a Democratic incumbent from accessing the voter file database—a vital campaign tool for any election.
...
Debbie Wasserman Schultz has demonstrated time and again the lengths she will take to protect her position of power from any challengers. She has received millions of dollars in contributions from special interests on Wall Street and from the alcoholic beverages industry—which has influenced her opposition to medical marijuana while the majority of Floridians favor it. Most recently, Ms. Wasserman Schultz’s contributions from payday lenders pushed her to side with many Republicans against Senator Elizabeth Warren’s Consumer Financial Protection Bureau. The bureau is attempting to enact rules to protect consumers from the predatory lending practices of payday loans, but of course Ms. Wasserman Schultz is protecting these practices for her own profit and the special interests that support her.
Donald Trump will become president because Hilary is a rubbish candidate. Don't blame the voters for not wanting to vote for criminals. Hilary loves facilitating war crimes and taking donators from dictators and terrorist sympathizers.
We now learn about Gilbert Chagoury, one of Africa’s richest men, a big Clinton Foundation donor who was denied entry into the United States, and one of the reasons is because FBI said he was giving money to Hezbollah sympathizers. The United States government thinks this Clinton Foundation donor has links to terrorism. Seems Hilary will take money from anybody with enough, including not just Arab dictators like al-Saud. L.A. Times reports:
Quote:The U.S. put Chagoury in its database used to screen travelers for possible links to terrorism, interagency memos show.
Quote:After Clinton left the State Department, Chagoury again found himself under suspicion by U.S. security officials. A 2013 FBI intelligence report, citing unverified raw information from a source, claimed Chagoury had sent funds to Aoun, who transferred money to Hezbollah. The source said Aoun was “facilitating fundraising for Hezbollah.” The U.S. put Chagoury in its database used to screen travelers for possible links to terrorism, interagency memos show.
RE: The top reasons people hate Hilary according to Newsweek
August 31, 2016 at 3:24 am (This post was last modified: August 31, 2016 at 3:25 am by Jesster.)
(August 31, 2016 at 3:12 am)ReptilianPeon Wrote:
(August 30, 2016 at 6:49 pm)Whateverist Wrote: Millions you say? Well, that's one way to get Trump elected.
As several people have repeated several times before, if you don't live in a "swing state" your vote doesn't matter. Millions of votes for Jill Stein does not necessarily mean Donald Trump will be president. From my prospective (and I'm not really a fan of the centrist Bernie) the Democratic Party rigged the primaries, so people voting for the cheater Hilary are green-lighting with the rigging and the Democratic Party will not learn it's lesson. We now know Debbie Wasserman Schultz’s primary down in Florida against Tim Canova was rigged so they haven't changed one bit. This is of course after Debbie stepped down from the DNC after being found guilty. So the Democrats were not really sorry they rigged the primary in favour of Hilary.
For example, taken from link (Tim's personal website):
Quote:And now, to help rig her own election in the Democratic Primaries, Ms. Wasserman Schultz is blocking any challenger to a Democratic incumbent from accessing the voter file database—a vital campaign tool for any election.
...
Debbie Wasserman Schultz has demonstrated time and again the lengths she will take to protect her position of power from any challengers. She has received millions of dollars in contributions from special interests on Wall Street and from the alcoholic beverages industry—which has influenced her opposition to medical marijuana while the majority of Floridians favor it. Most recently, Ms. Wasserman Schultz’s contributions from payday lenders pushed her to side with many Republicans against Senator Elizabeth Warren’s Consumer Financial Protection Bureau. The bureau is attempting to enact rules to protect consumers from the predatory lending practices of payday loans, but of course Ms. Wasserman Schultz is protecting these practices for her own profit and the special interests that support her.
Donald Trump will become president
because Hilary is a rubbish candidate. Don't blame the voters for not wanting to vote for criminals. We now learn about Gilbert Chagoury, one of Africa’s richest men, a big Clinton Foundation donor who was denied entry into the United States because the FBI said he was giving money to Hezbollah sympathizers. The United States government thinks this Clinton Foundation donor has links to terrorism. Seem Hilary will take money from anybody with enough, including not just Arab dictators like al-Saud. L.A. Times reports:
Quote:The U.S. put Chagoury in its database used to screen travelers for possible links to terrorism, interagency memos show.
Quote:After Clinton left the State Department, Chagoury again found himself under suspicion by U.S. security officials. A 2013 FBI intelligence report, citing unverified raw information from a source, claimed Chagoury had sent funds to Aoun, who transferred money to Hezbollah. The source said Aoun was “facilitating fundraising for Hezbollah.” The U.S. put Chagoury in its database used to screen travelers for possible links to terrorism, interagency memos show.
That's one way to make sure I will definitely vote for Hillary. Otherwise, yeah, Jill Stein is my preferred candidate.
RE: The top reasons people hate Hilary according to Newsweek
August 31, 2016 at 6:13 am (This post was last modified: August 31, 2016 at 6:17 am by ReptilianPeon.)
I don't know. From my perspective as a European I'm begging to think Donald Trump is less dangerous. Hilary has shown herself to be just as incompetent (especially since James Comey said she's retarded, basically) and Donald has reiterated two key things which I really love:
1. Disband NATO. NATO is no longer needed and I hate all the American vases across Europe. And if Trump loves Putun so much, as people claim, then that means he's less likely to go to war with Russia. I hope NATO gets disbanded.
2. These so-called free trade deals are bad. Trump has been quite consultant on this, even if he is a hypocrite for making his ties in China. I believe Clinton will aggressively fight for the trade deals once elected and millions of jobs will be lost if they are signed.
3. Rush Limbah came out the other day and said if you believe Trump on immigration and that he will actually do what he says then you are silly for believing that (because his immigration plan is so outlandish and he doesn't really believe his own immigration rhetoric):
RE: The top reasons people hate Hilary according to Newsweek
August 31, 2016 at 6:42 am
All I know is that a Trump presidency would be directly harmful to me. I mean, he picked Mike Pence as his running mate, clearly destroying all his half-assed lies about being on the side of LGBT. Hillary would just be a joke I could ignore. I'd rather watch out for my personal health because I already have little-to-no support there.
RE: The top reasons people hate Hilary according to Newsweek
August 31, 2016 at 8:27 am
From a domestic prospective yes, maybe Hilary is less dangerous. When she says such things as she wants a "no-fly zone over Syria", as she has done, that worries me deeply. Makes me wonder where all of her foreign policy experience has gone.