Our server costs ~$56 per month to run. Please consider donating or becoming a Patron to help keep the site running. Help us gain new members by following us on Twitter and liking our page on Facebook!
Current time: December 23, 2024, 12:27 pm

Thread Rating:
  • 0 Vote(s) - 0 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
I don't believe in Christianity primarily because of the brain
#61
RE: I don't believe in Christianity primarily because of the brain
So, Drich, since you're always prattling on about the evils of adding extra-biblical doctrine to Christianity, I assume you can cite the BCV that says the universe is the product of human consciousness. How do you square that fact with the biblical account of creation that says god created the universe before he created man? And since biocentrism rules out evolution(there would be no universe for organisms to evolve into Homo sapiens), how do you line that up with your "monkey man" hypothesis?
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
Reply
#62
RE: I don't believe in Christianity primarily because of the brain
(September 8, 2016 at 3:56 pm)Crossless1 Wrote: Sure, I get it. You referenced an article about a "theory" that doesn't rise to the level of theory (and arguably not even a scientific hypothesis) and that provides no evidence for its speculations. Yet you want to cite it as evidence that "science" doesn't rule out the possibility of a soul, however ill-defined 'soul' may be, and you decline to take any responsibility for providing anything like a workable definition that might be fruitful in a scientific context.

Yeah, I get it just fine.

Not only does it not rise to the level of theory, it turns out that any comments that criticize biocentrism are deleted.

https://ronmurp.net/tag/biocentrism/

And can't find it anymore, but I read somewhere that not only does Lanza delete any criticisms, he refuses to actually debate it with a physicist. So much for the "peer-review" part of the scientific method.
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
Reply
#63
RE: I don't believe in Christianity primarily because of the brain
Whenever Drich calls someone 'sport' it's a sign he knows he's losing an argument. I'd love to play poker against such a tell.
"I was thirsty for everything, but blood wasn't my style" - Live, "Voodoo Lady"
Reply
#64
RE: I don't believe in Christianity primarily because of the brain
(September 8, 2016 at 8:07 pm)Faith No More Wrote: So, Drich, since you're always prattling on about the evils of adding extra-biblical doctrine to Christianity, I assume you can cite the BCV that says the universe is the product of human consciousness.  How do you square that fact with the biblical account of creation that says god created the universe before he created man?  And since biocentrism rules out evolution(there would be no universe for organisms to evolve into Homo sapiens), how do you line that up with your "monkey man" hypothesis?

Something like this, I imagine:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nF-qQv4xwU
Reply
#65
RE: I don't believe in Christianity primarily because of the brain
Drich has reached the point where his comments aren't worth replying to, again. You know you've gotten under his skin when he starts calling you 'sport' a lot, and then he's pretty much just ranting.

This is the point where I remind myself that not all Christians (#notallChristians) are like that.
I'm not anti-Christian. I'm anti-stupid.
Reply
#66
RE: I don't believe in Christianity primarily because of the brain
(September 8, 2016 at 3:56 pm)Crossless1 Wrote: Sure, I get it. You referenced an article about a "theory" that doesn't rise to the level of theory (and arguably not even a scientific hypothesis) and that provides no evidence for its speculations. Yet you want to cite it as evidence that "science" doesn't rule out the possibility of a soul, however ill-defined 'soul' may be, and you decline to take any responsibility for providing anything like a workable definition that might be fruitful in a scientific context.

Yeah, I get it just fine.

So, you get it, but decide to default to a unsubstantiated sweeping dismissal and to end with a quip instead...

So riddle me this... what is it you think you get?

Because all I see here is more of the same. You fail to address the subject and move to dismiss with a personal evaluation based on nothing more than an insult made to stick with your standing in this peer group. You do know that out side this little safe haven, you by word thought and deed seem to 'get' nothing.
Reply
#67
RE: I don't believe in Christianity primarily because of the brain
Translation:

"Waaah - everyone's against me!"

[Image: crying-Baby-Wallpapers.jpg]
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
Reply
#68
RE: I don't believe in Christianity primarily because of the brain
(September 8, 2016 at 8:07 pm)Faith No More Wrote: So, Drich, since you're always prattling on about the evils of adding extra-biblical doctrine to Christianity, I assume you can cite the BCV that says the universe is the product of human consciousness.  How do you square that fact with the biblical account of creation that says god created the universe before he created man?  And since biocentrism rules out evolution(there would be no universe for organisms to evolve into Homo sapiens), how do you line that up with your "monkey man" hypothesis?

And... Where did I claim, This theory had ANYTHING to do with what I believe?

Ever play devil's advocate before? Ever Explore a position not your own? Ever put on someone elses' position to refute them with their own tools?

That is what I did here. I know for really stupid people, it is impossible to imagine the mental dexterity it takes to remove oneself from a core belief and to be familiar enough with the other side's argument to dare represent a different facet of the opposing argument to their opponent, to use their tools against them.

For example the OP says he does not believe in God or after life because he believes that science says once your dead nothing is left. I simply put on 'science' in the way of this article and the larger theory of biocentrism to show him he was wrong in his repersentation of 'all of science.' Basicly with the very 'tool' he is using to dismiss Christianity, I dismissed his claim.

The reason being, If infact his base is unsure/undecided about us or our souls then how can it speak to the nature of God?
Reply
#69
RE: I don't believe in Christianity primarily because of the brain
[Image: 4539135a55a5fbfafe602104741d730b5feed164...0f9aa1.jpg]
I don't believe you. Get over it.
Reply
#70
RE: I don't believe in Christianity primarily because of the brain
I don't believe in Christianity primarily because it's a load of utter shite.

I just believe in me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZ5PQppudHc
Reply



Possibly Related Threads...
Thread Author Replies Views Last Post
  Mental gymnastics from the brain-eating religion FredTheLobster 13 2015 June 28, 2021 at 4:22 pm
Last Post: Frank Apisa
  Which is the cause, which the effect: religious fundamentalism <=> brain impairment Whateverist 31 6217 March 20, 2018 at 3:20 pm
Last Post: The Grand Nudger
  Christianity Can't Be True Because... pipw1995 75 14000 August 31, 2016 at 1:18 pm
Last Post: Simon Moon
  Orthodox Christianity is Best Christianity! Annoyingbutnicetheist 30 8000 January 26, 2016 at 10:44 pm
Last Post: ignoramus
Photo Christian Memes/Pics Because Reasons -- Please add your favorites stop_pushing_me 29 14924 September 23, 2015 at 9:53 pm
Last Post: Homeless Nutter
  Don't Understand The Appeal Of Christianity To People Imaginos7 30 8871 September 10, 2015 at 1:13 pm
Last Post: Lek
  WHY do we have religion? Because fables are FUN. drfuzzy 5 1876 September 1, 2015 at 12:19 pm
Last Post: dyresand
  They Finally Got It Right....Because of a Bigot. Minimalist 9 3546 August 7, 2015 at 2:07 am
Last Post: Wyrd of Gawd
  Ha, huh because.... Science says so! Drich 122 34602 August 3, 2015 at 9:09 am
Last Post: robvalue
  Don't ever question. Just believe. TubbyTubby 41 8419 July 6, 2015 at 10:40 am
Last Post: Iroscato



Users browsing this thread: 3 Guest(s)