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RE: You Wouldn't Make A Dog Suffer Like This
September 7, 2016 at 1:26 pm
From the article:
Diane Coleman, who leads the anti-euthanasia organization Not Dead Yet, said euthanasia is a kind of discrimination against people with disabilities. Her group is one of the four pushing officials to intervene.
“I worry that there’s an attitude in the health care profession that really writes people off with disabilities,” she told the newspaper. “I worry that people like Jerika … are in the throes of that, and without adequate support.”
I wonder how long this self-righteous, meddling bitch would endure what this girl has gone through before she prayed for an early death. Discrimination. What the fuck?!?
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RE: You Wouldn't Make A Dog Suffer Like This
September 7, 2016 at 1:32 pm
(September 7, 2016 at 1:20 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: Unless of course you're an Albanian nun in Calcutta - then fetishizing suffering will get you a sainthood.
Let's circle back to my comments on the obscene and apply them to this situation as well.
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RE: You Wouldn't Make A Dog Suffer Like This
September 7, 2016 at 3:03 pm
I recently had to put one of my dogs down. He was very old and could no longer stand without falling down. The vet came to the house, gave him a sedative and a shot and he closed his eyes and went to sleep. So much more peaceful and dignified than what this poor kid is going to have to go through; gasping out her last breath because of the fucktards who run this goddamned country.
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RE: You Wouldn't Make A Dog Suffer Like This
September 7, 2016 at 4:41 pm
I have done that too Mini, only just recently when one of the cats had a cancer in its mouth so, it had most of his top jaw taken away and he smelled horrible. It wasn't our cat, but I had no choice, since our other cats didn't want to know him, and no-one else wanted to try and take care of him. I love animals, and even though he smelled badly, I was the one who was there, giving him some love that he probably craved for and he knew this, since I was the only one giving him attention. So, it pained me to go to the vets which is about 5 minutes on the bus, however, we took a nice stroll and let him smell the fresh air for 30 minutes on the way. No meowing, not one single noise could be heard, since he was I guess, happy. Further to that, when he had his first shot, a sedative or anaestetic, it took a long time for it to react so, it gave me enough time to call his name out so he knew that I was with him. He was given the second shot and I waited for a further 10 minutes, then it was all done. Damn shame!!! My father also passed away 2 years ago to cancer of the lungs with metastasis in the liver stage 4, basically terminal cancer. I have seen him with the treatment and it made me sick and I have vowed that should I ever have cancer, I am just going to face it head on, no treatment.
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RE: You Wouldn't Make A Dog Suffer Like This
September 7, 2016 at 6:34 pm
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RE: You Wouldn't Make A Dog Suffer Like This
September 7, 2016 at 7:41 pm
So offensive and ignorant. I don't know whether these idiots think they're actually doing good here or it's a "God's will" thing. Either way, the world would be a better place if a meteor found its way to their next meeting.
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RE: You Wouldn't Make A Dog Suffer Like This
September 7, 2016 at 8:14 pm
(September 7, 2016 at 4:41 pm)RobertE Wrote: I have done that too Mini, only just recently when one of the cats had a cancer in its mouth so, it had most of his top jaw taken away and he smelled horrible. It wasn't our cat, but I had no choice, since our other cats didn't want to know him, and no-one else wanted to try and take care of him. I love animals, and even though he smelled badly, I was the one who was there, giving him some love that he probably craved for and he knew this, since I was the only one giving him attention. So, it pained me to go to the vets which is about 5 minutes on the bus, however, we took a nice stroll and let him smell the fresh air for 30 minutes on the way. No meowing, not one single noise could be heard, since he was I guess, happy. Further to that, when he had his first shot, a sedative or anaestetic, it took a long time for it to react so, it gave me enough time to call his name out so he knew that I was with him. He was given the second shot and I waited for a further 10 minutes, then it was all done. Damn shame!!! My father also passed away 2 years ago to cancer of the lungs with metastasis in the liver stage 4, basically terminal cancer. I have seen him with the treatment and it made me sick and I have vowed that should I ever have cancer, I am just going to face it head on, no treatment.
Sucks, doesn't it?
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RE: You Wouldn't Make A Dog Suffer Like This
September 7, 2016 at 8:29 pm
You know what this reminds me of?
There's a movie called Conspiracy. It's about the Wannsee Conference, that chapter of Nazi Germany where the Nazis finally made up their mind between killing the Jews and simply making their lives Hell after nine years in power.
In one scene, Friedrich Wilhelm Kritzinger discovers that Reinhard Heydrich has announced that Hitler has finally decided to kill them, and he does not take it well. While many of the people there are visibly uncomfortable when Heydrich and Eichmann explain the details, and some people even object to the plans (largely for logistical reasons), Kritzinger is the only person there who has a moral objection to the plan.
But, of course, before we get too much on Kritzinger's side, Heydrich actually points out Kritzinger's hypocrisy, as he had actually gone along with literally everything else up until that point, at one point asking: "Well then, this is the moment to be... practical, until such time as Germany can afford your philosophy, which is what? Hound them, impoverish them, exploit them, imprison them - just do not _kill_ them, and you are God's noblest of men. I find that, uh, truly remarkable." It's a truly chilling speech, and what he desribes sounds a lot like the Republican agenda, put people in poverty, create policies that put an alarmingly high percentage of its citizens in prison, use people for whatever they see fit, and, apparently, it's all okay as long as they're alive to see all this.
That speech can be seen at over 5 minutes into this video, which contains the bulk of Kritzinger's best scenes:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AS_ZlbADBXY
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RE: You Wouldn't Make A Dog Suffer Like This
September 7, 2016 at 10:59 pm
(September 7, 2016 at 8:14 pm)Minimalist Wrote: (September 7, 2016 at 4:41 pm)RobertE Wrote: I have done that too Mini, only just recently when one of the cats had a cancer in its mouth so, it had most of his top jaw taken away and he smelled horrible. It wasn't our cat, but I had no choice, since our other cats didn't want to know him, and no-one else wanted to try and take care of him. I love animals, and even though he smelled badly, I was the one who was there, giving him some love that he probably craved for and he knew this, since I was the only one giving him attention. So, it pained me to go to the vets which is about 5 minutes on the bus, however, we took a nice stroll and let him smell the fresh air for 30 minutes on the way. No meowing, not one single noise could be heard, since he was I guess, happy. Further to that, when he had his first shot, a sedative or anaestetic, it took a long time for it to react so, it gave me enough time to call his name out so he knew that I was with him. He was given the second shot and I waited for a further 10 minutes, then it was all done. Damn shame!!! My father also passed away 2 years ago to cancer of the lungs with metastasis in the liver stage 4, basically terminal cancer. I have seen him with the treatment and it made me sick and I have vowed that should I ever have cancer, I am just going to face it head on, no treatment.
Sucks, doesn't it?
It does indeed. There are those who would prefer an animal or indeed a human being to continue living because they cannot let go. You have to be cruel to be kind and regardless of what some people think, the animal/person knows how much you love them. I even had my doubt the day before the euthanisia, and I wwanted to give him one more day, but in the end, that is one more day, which could turn into one more week or one more month, and then it would have been possible for the cancer to come back and he would have died in agony. We live in the 21st century and it is about time we were able to make our own decisions about what happens to our lives.
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RE: You Wouldn't Make A Dog Suffer Like This
September 8, 2016 at 8:05 am
(September 7, 2016 at 8:29 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote: You know what this reminds me of?
There's a movie called Conspiracy. It's about the Wannsee Conference, that chapter of Nazi Germany where the Nazis finally made up their mind between killing the Jews and simply making their lives Hell after nine years in power.
One quibble, the Nazis had decided to kill off the Jews a long time before. Death squads to carry out that purpose had been formed in preparation for the invasion of Poland and, later, the USSR (the einsatzgruppen of the SS). But it turned out that killing thousands of people via firing squad was not alone massively wasteful of bullets but severy deleterious to the mental and physical health of the killers. So they combined the idea of gassing people used in the life unworthy of life programme (using the same vans at the beginning) with the accidental discovery that Zyklon B was a very effective poison against humans.
At least 1m Jews were killed before Wannsee.
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