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RE: Trump makes second veiled threat.....
September 17, 2016 at 2:18 pm
(September 17, 2016 at 2:12 pm)Aegon Wrote: (September 17, 2016 at 11:53 am)RobertE Wrote: Having read many different articles on this subject, it seems to me that he was actually calling her out or, if she is for a ban on guns, then she should ask her security team to drop their arms. She would never do that in a million years. She might be against guns, but she knows full well that she feels more secure with one. Hypocrite.
What is it with the pro-gun crowd thinking that politicians want to ban all guns? When has any prominent politician suggested a plan even remotely close to doing that. She doesn't want to ban your fucking guns, and yeah, I think law enforcement agents and the Secret fucking Service should be more armed than the average citizen. Otherwise we may as well give every American citizen an assault rifle and do away with police departments. Let it play out, see what happens.
I live in France so, I am just giving an opinion. The pro-gun crowd are either rednecks, those who listen to gangster rap and do fuck all for a living except sponge off the government and then there are the Hispanics, who do mean well by converting old cars in low-riders, which I kinda like and it is enterprising, however, they have a history of using guns too.
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RE: Trump makes second veiled threat.....
September 17, 2016 at 2:19 pm
(September 17, 2016 at 12:22 pm)RobertE Wrote: (September 17, 2016 at 12:09 pm)The_Empress Wrote: I'd love to see your evidence that Clinton wants a ban on guns.
I would also love to see Brians evidence too that Trump wants his supporters to shoot Clinton. This is what he implied and thus, he should show clear as day evidence.
Gotta have "plausible" deniability. "I just told them she needs to be shot, I didn't tell them to shoot her!"
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RE: Trump makes second veiled threat.....
September 17, 2016 at 2:21 pm
(September 17, 2016 at 2:18 pm)RobertE Wrote: (September 17, 2016 at 2:12 pm)Aegon Wrote: What is it with the pro-gun crowd thinking that politicians want to ban all guns? When has any prominent politician suggested a plan even remotely close to doing that. She doesn't want to ban your fucking guns, and yeah, I think law enforcement agents and the Secret fucking Service should be more armed than the average citizen. Otherwise we may as well give every American citizen an assault rifle and do away with police departments. Let it play out, see what happens.
I live in France so, I am just giving an opinion. The pro-gun crowd are either rednecks, those who listen to gangster rap and do fuck all for a living except sponge off the government and then there are the Hispanics, who do mean well by converting old cars in low-riders, which I kinda like and it is enterprising, however, they have a history of using guns too.
Wow.
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RE: Trump makes second veiled threat.....
September 17, 2016 at 2:24 pm
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(September 17, 2016 at 2:15 pm)Aegon Wrote: (September 17, 2016 at 1:47 pm)Drich Wrote: She believes 1/2 the population not voting for her are deplorable. "Racists, misogynists, xenophobes radical extremists, etc.." Are you telling me she thinks "those people" should be armed?
Is that supposed to be an argument?
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RE: Trump makes second veiled threat.....
September 17, 2016 at 2:28 pm
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I'm not sure that makes her much of a hypocrite, Robert. Loons mean her ill, lol. Loons probably don't give a shit about me.
(September 17, 2016 at 1:47 pm)Drich Wrote: She believes 1/2 the population not voting for her are deplorable. "Racists, misogynists, xenophobes radical extremists, etc.." Are you telling me she thinks "those people" should be armed?
She's been arming deplorables around the world for decades, why would she stop now? If you local deplorables would get with the program maybe she'd send you a rifle too. Stop coveting they neighbors small arms.
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RE: Trump makes second veiled threat.....
September 17, 2016 at 2:29 pm
(September 17, 2016 at 11:50 am)Brian37 Wrote: (September 17, 2016 at 11:35 am)paulpablo Wrote: More accurately he said her security should drop their guns if she doesn't want guns.
BULLSHIT....
That is the 30 year old GOP/NRA fucking lie that democrats want to get rid of every single firearm. I am tired of that fucking bullshit. Saying we have a flooded market and that guns are too easy to get is not a ban on all guns. Just like if one were to lower speed limits and demand catalytic converters be on cars is not a ban on all vehicles.
"and see what happens" is a veiled invitation for his followers to "do something" so he doesn't have to be held responsible for what his followers do.
There is no political litmus test to own a firearm and liberals own them too. BUT sane people simply know we make too many, they are too easy to get. I have yet to get a good answer as to how many would be enough before we stop pumping them out like candy? We already have 300,000,000 firearms. How about 1 billion firearms? 10 billion?
Now that asshole isn't willing to drop his own security detail himself so this is just a fucking coward's bullshit Jerry Springer act.
He also knows that a president, as an individual DOES NOT HAVE THE POWER to overturn an amendment by themselves. To overturn an amendment it takes VOTERS and 2/3rds of all the 50 states to do that. The 2nd amendment is in no danger of being overturned. THE WORD regulation is in that amendment, just like mandated seatbelts is a regulation. THIS is just more bullshit fear by Trump/GOP/NRA TO protect gun makers profits. Same bullshit scare tactics big tobacco used to avoid changing their marketing tactics.
He is a fucking coward and a bully and a dangerous demagogue.
Oh ok. Well either way it seems like you quoted Donald trump a bit out of context.
He said her security should drop their guns if she's against guns.
He didn't just randomly say she should drop her security and see what happens.
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RE: Trump makes second veiled threat.....
September 17, 2016 at 2:32 pm
(September 17, 2016 at 2:18 pm)RobertE Wrote: (September 17, 2016 at 2:12 pm)Aegon Wrote: What is it with the pro-gun crowd thinking that politicians want to ban all guns? When has any prominent politician suggested a plan even remotely close to doing that. She doesn't want to ban your fucking guns, and yeah, I think law enforcement agents and the Secret fucking Service should be more armed than the average citizen. Otherwise we may as well give every American citizen an assault rifle and do away with police departments. Let it play out, see what happens.
I live in France so, I am just giving an opinion. The pro-gun crowd are either rednecks, those who listen to gangster rap and do fuck all for a living except sponge off the government and then there are the Hispanics, who do mean well by converting old cars in low-riders, which I kinda like and it is enterprising, however, they have a history of using guns too.
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RE: Trump makes second veiled threat.....
September 17, 2016 at 4:31 pm
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What a thread. So much stupid from all sides, it's really hard to choose whom to scoff at nowadays.
No, Clinton doesn't want to "ban guns", claiming that asking for stricter gun regulations while employing a professional armed security force, that that is hypocritical, that 's stupid rhetoric for trump fans who are dim enough to buy it. That everyone who is 'pro guns' whatever that even means, is either a racist redneck or a black gang banger straight outta compton is equally idiotic and insulting to, like... everyone from the people in compton to gun owners.
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RE: Trump makes second veiled threat.....
September 17, 2016 at 4:57 pm
(September 17, 2016 at 2:29 pm)paulpablo Wrote: (September 17, 2016 at 11:50 am)Brian37 Wrote: BULLSHIT....
That is the 30 year old GOP/NRA fucking lie that democrats want to get rid of every single firearm. I am tired of that fucking bullshit. Saying we have a flooded market and that guns are too easy to get is not a ban on all guns. Just like if one were to lower speed limits and demand catalytic converters be on cars is not a ban on all vehicles.
"and see what happens" is a veiled invitation for his followers to "do something" so he doesn't have to be held responsible for what his followers do.
There is no political litmus test to own a firearm and liberals own them too. BUT sane people simply know we make too many, they are too easy to get. I have yet to get a good answer as to how many would be enough before we stop pumping them out like candy? We already have 300,000,000 firearms. How about 1 billion firearms? 10 billion?
Now that asshole isn't willing to drop his own security detail himself so this is just a fucking coward's bullshit Jerry Springer act.
He also knows that a president, as an individual DOES NOT HAVE THE POWER to overturn an amendment by themselves. To overturn an amendment it takes VOTERS and 2/3rds of all the 50 states to do that. The 2nd amendment is in no danger of being overturned. THE WORD regulation is in that amendment, just like mandated seatbelts is a regulation. THIS is just more bullshit fear by Trump/GOP/NRA TO protect gun makers profits. Same bullshit scare tactics big tobacco used to avoid changing their marketing tactics.
He is a fucking coward and a bully and a dangerous demagogue.
Oh ok. Well either way it seems like you quoted Donald trump a bit out of context.
He said her security should drop their guns if she's against guns.
He didn't just randomly say she should drop her security and see what happens.
Bullshit, I didn't take anything out of context. She isn't against gun ownership. That is a fucking lie you buy into. If she had said the same thing about him you'd be throwing a fit. He is daring someone to "do something".
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RE: Trump makes second veiled threat.....
September 17, 2016 at 5:06 pm
(September 17, 2016 at 4:57 pm)Brian37 Wrote: (September 17, 2016 at 2:29 pm)paulpablo Wrote: Oh ok. Well either way it seems like you quoted Donald trump a bit out of context.
He said her security should drop their guns if she's against guns.
He didn't just randomly say she should drop her security and see what happens.
Bullshit, I didn't take anything out of context. She isn't against gun ownership. That is a fucking lie you buy into. If she had said the same thing about him you'd be throwing a fit. He is daring someone to "do something".
You're completely wrong. I didn't agree or disagree or buy into anything Donald trump said.
You did take him out of context just a little bit, just enough to make it seem like what he said could be a little bit more taken as a threat rather than a comment about gun control.
You said Donald trump said Hilary should basically not have security and see what happens but it's more accurate to use his actual quote.
Which is that Hilary should have security without guns if she's against guns.
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