Can you explain why Hillary sucks?

[SteelCurtain]

[vorlon13]

GOP cold war, or vast right wing conspiracy, they all have as their best ally, Hillary herself.

And sometimes Bill . . . .

[Minimalist]

[Aroura]

I would like to bump this topic with the following questions to those who think Hillary is the lesser of 2 evils, and those that find her even worse than Trump.

Please explain her crimes, and provide links.

In my research, and I'm honestly trying to look outside the echo chamber, I'm not finding most of the accusations leveled against her to be true.
She's not very liberal, I'll give you that. She's not as green as I'd like.

There is no evidence she sold any weapons to ISIS.
She didn't steal White House furnishings or property, nor even attempt to steal.
She didn't free a rapist, or laugh about it.
In fact, nearly every accusation leveled against her appears to be somewhere between Harry Potter and Lord of the Rings, based on a dab of facts but with huge amounts of fiction mixed in, to just outright 100% fiction.

The emails are poor judgement, but do not appear intentionally criminal.
Her support of foreign wars and occupations is troubling, and undeniable. She is a career politician with fingers in many pies. I dislike that there will be no change with things like Washington Lobbyists. But Trump isn't going to change America's status in either war or lobbying either, and his proposed tax policies and "diplomacy" are far, far worse than hers. So how is that equally bad? How on earth is it worse??

Please, if she's really so terrible, I'd like to know the truth.

[Minimalist]

Facts have no place in republicunt politics.

[Thumpalumpacus]

I don't dislike her for any alleged crimes. I dislike her for a level of dishonesty that goes quite beyond that of normal politicians ... the "sniper fire" story jumps to mind immediately. Additionally, I find it hard to understand anyone who would stay with a spouse who was repeatedly unfaithful.

That said, I'd still vote for her over Trump if my state is close.

[Aroura]

[Thumpalumpacus]

Well, someone hungry enough for power to accept that sort of tradeoff is someone I'm not inclined to support.

As for her rate of lying, I suppose it was more the brass nature of the sniper-fire lie that startles me. Something that can be that easily falsified, when you know your opponents have a bull's-eye on your back, is incredibly poor judgement ... Trump gets lambasted for doing the exact same thing, albeit more often.

[Aroura]

My point is, we don't know all the reasons they stay together. Power? Probably. But is that the only reason? Maybe they are good friends who have found a person who they can talk to and seek support from outside the bedroom. That's a valuable thing in a relationship.


Hillary is undeniably power-hungry though, but so is anyone seeking this position. ANYONE, even Bernie,. This still feels to me like judgement because she's female, and power hungry females seem off to most people, even other females. We are taught this sort of thing from birth, so I'm not saying you are a misogynist or anything, just that I really think it affects people more than they might even realize.

[chimp3]

I do not find Hilary offensive or criminal. I find her to be an advocate of powerful, meddling governance and her approach to politics is one of many reasons I vote libertarian. Trump I find offensive, criminal,  and sucking in so many ways.