How the fuck is there a statute of limitations for rape in New York?

[The Grand Nudger]

The state doesn't agree.  "Forced sex" is -exactly- what they prosecute a rapist for. I;d shit a brick if someone tried to defend themseves from a charge of rape by claiming that it was, instead, "forced sex". May as well walk yourself into a cell. Fun fact, the simple offering of such a defense would waive any protection an SOL -could- confer, if it conferred any, which it usually doesn't. The rapists best bet, and yours as well..on this count..is simply to remain silent. To refuse to defend themselves at all.

[Drich]

see above.

All anyone need do is ask a question if they want me to connect the dots and tie all the points I've made together.

No...it's your responsibility as the person fostering the argument to do that.  Otherwise, we are reasonably justified to dismiss your claims as having no merit.  That's how this works...

holy crap, do you not understand I can not possibly fill in the at least 1/2 a dozen preceived 'blanks' that each of you will possibly have without you asking questions?

Have you ever been on the minority side of a 40 page thread where there is at least 8 to 10 active counter points you have to continually answer at any given time? All of which have their own take on what you are saying based on their own biases and what they think of the subject matter.

The ONLY way this works if you ask questions, because other wise you are left trying to draw your own picture of what i am saying by what I said to someone else.

[Thumpalumpacus]

No...it's your responsibility as the person fostering the argument to do that.  Otherwise, we are reasonably justified to dismiss your claims as having no merit.  That's how this works...

holy crap, do you not understand I can not possibly fill in the at least 1/2 a dozen preceived 'blanks' that each of you will possibly have without you asking questions?

Have you ever been on the minority side of a 40 page thread where there is at least 8 to 10 active counter points you have to continually answer at any given time? All of which have their own take on what you are saying based on their own biases and what they think of the subject matter.

The ONLY way this works if you ask questions, because other wise you are left trying to draw your own picture of what i am saying by what I said to someone else.

You're an idiot. The other way it can work is for you to put out a coherent position that actually accounts for the facts as they are in the law and the language.

I'm not holding my breath. Coherence isn't your strong suit.

[Drich]

What annoys me is that he's wrong about the word to begin with. There's no difference between forced sex and rape in any regards. Murder is a legal term defined as unlawful killing, rape is not legally defined as unlawful sex it's defined only as nonconsensual penetration. Even if you cannot prosecute someone the alleged action would still be called rape in the eyes of the law.

So I'm not the only one who finds his intentional ignorance annoying?

Let's pretend for a second that I may, just maybe 4 or maybe 5 steps ahead of you in the conversation, and the reason what i am currently saying doesn't make sense to you, is because you are not actively involved in the conversation, but just adding statler and waldorf type commentary from the side lines based on someone else's misunderstanding???

How much more annoying do you think that would be?

[Drich]

When I came here 4 or 5 years ago the bar was set pretty low. (In terms of the theological debates and arguements) Real bottom of the 'thinker' barrel. 'Can God create a rock so big he can not lift it? What happened to all the fish durning the flood, the epicurean paradox, Long lists of why does a 'good' God______ ect..

Now I approached all of this as a heartless robot, and I got nothing but pure steaming hate for at least a year or two, but a funny thing began to happen... I started to note that all the cliche atheist fare began to disappear, and some really good questions came out, and I feel the primary members of this site are indeed growing past the basic questions other atheist sites center themselves around.

Again, i am playing the long game.

lol, you sparked the flowering thought of this forum? You?

You give yourself too much credit, asshole. The only thing I've ever seen you add is a turd in the punchbowl of whatever thread it is you're trying to poison at the moment. This thread itself is a splendid example of that: your only contributions have been factually incorrect and emotionally hateful.

Awe... Somebody Jelly.

[Huggy Bear]

Yes It is a legal term like murder.

Murder is to unlawfully take life. There is a difference between murder and killing. a cop may kill someone in the line of duty but may never murder someone. the physical act/evidence being the same.

Wrong.

All things being equal, murder is always murder. The fact that the US justice system rarely charges a cop for murder, is a reflection on the system and has nothing to do with the definition.

Murder is prohibited under natural law, which supersedes US law, which is why a particular document states that the right to life is unalienable.

[Drich]

The point being forced sex is not always rape.

Only if you're Japanese.  

*edit*
I was just cracking a quick joke, but after having actually read your post, I'm kinda shocked to see that's the point you we're actually making.

lol

korean or rather 1/2..

The point was to frame the western view on sex and the woman's role in sex to be a co-equal partner is in the minority of how people generally view sex world wide.

That how members of this website would be in the minority (when view through a global lens) on how women participate in sex.

[Drich]

That's crap..

Consent is the difference.

Some people like the 'fight/struggle.'

Alot of traditional Asian sexual culture is based on this type of sexual experience. Boarder line rape is almost like missionary sex here.

A woman is not suppose to like/enjoy sex in a traditional context. the hook, for the guy is to be so good that he can make her drop the cultural values and force his partner to enjoy themselves.

The point being forced sex is not always rape.

Justify rape much?

Let's add things up here: you're a guy who defends slavery, beats his children, prays for others to get cancer and AIDS, and defends rape as a cultural phenomenon in Asia (because Asian women like it!)

Simply revolting. Revolting.

Who makes accusations without considering all the facts???

Self righteous, simply self righteous.

[The Grand Nudger]

The women in your asian example (which has jack shit to do with US law, btw) would be willing participants in a cultural drama, or so you'd have us believe.  Obviously, a willing participant has not been raped.   She has not been forced.  

Something tells me that even in asia, the state can secure a conviction of rape from time to time. You're wrong about SOLs, you're wrong about rape, and your own silly fucking examples argue against you.

[Drich]

The point being forced sex is not always rape.

Go fuck yourself again, Drich.

2/3's of the f-ing planet say otherwise you xenophobe. open your eyes once and a while and pretend at least in public that you don't truly believe western culture is the only "Right" culture you friggen biggot.