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Is there objective Truth?
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(October 14, 2016 at 12:19 am)Soldat Du Christ Wrote: "The "golden rule" exists because a human said it and applied to a wish for human behavior. Please show me the golden rule in action in a petri dish."

You can whitness it everywhere, no observational equipment neccecary, just eyes to see and an ear to listen. This isn't an arbitrary sequence of numbers. It is consistent in nature.



" I see that you seem to think that you get to pick and choose the definitions as you see fit and that I must agree with them. That's not gonna happen. I'll choose "assertion", from the same website."

Are you making up your own definitions now too?
Wow, "golden rule (assuming that you mean do unto others......)" has a correlation to math? You have some big time connections to make. Something tells me that you can't or won't.
Not making up definitions, just not living by yours.
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(October 14, 2016 at 10:29 pm)Soldat Du Christ Wrote:
(October 14, 2016 at 5:28 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: Ultimate objective truth?  What exactly is an ultimate truth?  Are you now ranking truths according to some order?  The concept makes no sense.  There is no ordering of truths such that one is of higher rank than another.

First of all i never suggested a rank.

Then what do you mean by prefacing the word truth with the word 'ultimate'?

(October 14, 2016 at 10:29 pm)Soldat Du Christ Wrote: Second, this guy you copy paste is only giving examples and non examples... And how does this at all disprove it's relevant to the topic? None. Nobody is suggesting some it's sort of cosmic conspericy, rather how precice calculations can be found in nature.

It's what's known as a teaser. I was inviting people to read a skeptical take on the Fibonacci sequence claims, not providing a quotation that itself disproved the Fibonacci sequence material. If you actually read the article, you'd know that he points out that these so called 'precise calculations' are not in fact accurate claims.
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(October 14, 2016 at 10:47 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote:
(October 14, 2016 at 10:29 pm)Soldat Du Christ Wrote: First of all i never suggested a rank.

Then what do you mean by prefacing the word truth with the word 'ultimate'?

(October 14, 2016 at 10:29 pm)Soldat Du Christ Wrote: Second, this guy you copy paste is only giving examples and non examples... And how does this at all disprove it's relevant to the topic? None. Nobody is suggesting some it's sort of cosmic conspericy, rather how precice calculations can be found in nature.

It's what's known as a teaser. I was inviting people to read a skeptical take on the Fibonacci sequence claims, not providing a quotation that itself disproved the Fibonacci sequence material. If you actually read the article, you'd know that he points out that these so called 'precise calculations' are not in fact accurate claims.

I read it.. "The golden rectangle is the basis for generating a curve known as the "golden spiral", a logarithmic spiral that is fairly well-matched to some spirals found in nature, and this fact is the source of much of the popular and mystical interest in this mathematical subject."

He is not dissmising it's relevence to nature as you can see here. Like i said, he is giving examples, and non examples. Yes these sorts of things can grow out of proportion and need to be put into perspective. I'm not making any grand claims here, i think it's rather stating the obvious.
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#78
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What if all human beings simply died at once? Tonight , for example. (Have a nice day!) What would truth be then? That is what truth is now.
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What makes you think that the universe has been "programmed", when you say apparent what do you mean - specifically- ? If it has been "programmed", why by a god, and if by a god, why by -your- god?

Bonus Q: If it has been programmed, and by a god, and by your god....why should I care?
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