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Proof, If Any Were Needed, That
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RE: Proof, If Any Were Needed, That
(October 14, 2016 at 10:59 am)abaris Wrote:
(October 14, 2016 at 10:55 am)FatAndFaithless Wrote: I wasn't defending Saudi Arabia, just pointing out that accepting money from an entity doesn't mean you condone or support their policies.

It's an entirely different discussion, so I stop talking about this after this last reply. But most, if not all of them, don't give a shit. Which is condoning by neglect.

Fair enough.
In every country and every age, the priest had been hostile to Liberty.
- Thomas Jefferson
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#12
RE: Proof, If Any Were Needed, That
I think people care, it's just a matter of not being able to do jackshit about it. You can't sanction away their culture. I mean it'd be great if you could. But you can't.

Also, Trump Jr. apparently suggested that 'kindergarten teachers' aren't part of the workforce. It does make you wonder if he got his ideas from his daddy.
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#13
RE: Proof, If Any Were Needed, That
(October 14, 2016 at 2:06 am)Cato Wrote: But soliciting and accepting money from countries where it's illegal for women to drive is okay. Clinton is only concerned about one woman.

Furthermore, if Donald Jr. Is fair game then no more whining about Bill's escapades.  Bill used an intern as a humidor in the Oval Office, but let's make a deal about what Donald Jr. says. Lose perspective much?

I'm so fucking tired of this 'Not Trump' schtick. It's as if I should be given the key to the city because I decided NOT to rob a bank today.

If the Clinton Foundation got the fucking Saudis to contribute to their efforts to make the world better than good for them.  It will be the first time that the fucking Saudis ever spent money that wasn't designed to spread their wahabist shit all over the landscape and did something useful for the world.

Fuck that piece of shit, Drumpf.  He's a phony and he's a liar and he is out of his fucking mind.

We clear now?
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#14
RE: Proof, If Any Were Needed, That
Yeah, I don't understand why every criticism of the crazy Trumps is met with "but, but the Clintons." So what about the Clintons? Even if every accusation about the pair of them were correct, it wouldn't make the accusations against the Trumps less correct, so what the fuck?
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#15
RE: Proof, If Any Were Needed, That
Last I looked Bill Clinton is not running for election.... Drumpf is.  A fact for which I shall never, ever, forgive the republicunts.
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#16
RE: Proof, If Any Were Needed, That
I think that's where it really starts to hurt the dumbfuck. Big donors say bye bye.

Quote:WASHINGTON — Several of the Republican Party’s most generous donors called on the Republican National Committee on Thursday to disavow Donald J. Trump, saying that allegations by multiple women that Mr. Trump had groped or made inappropriate sexual advances toward them threatened to inflict lasting damage on the party’s image.

Quote:“At some point, you have to look in the mirror and recognize that you cannot possibly justify support for Trump to your children — especially your daughters,” said David Humphreys, a Missouri business executive who contributed more than $2.5 million to Republicans from the 2012 campaign cycle through this spring and opposed Mr. Trump’s bid from the outset.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/14/us/pol...-news&_r=0
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#17
RE: Proof, If Any Were Needed, That
(October 14, 2016 at 11:55 am)Minimalist Wrote: Last I looked Bill Clinton is not running for election.... Drumpf is.  A fact for which I shall never, ever, forgive the republicunts.

Neither is Donald Jr.

And I'll never forgive the Democrats for Clinton in an election that should be a slam dunk for anyone with a pulse.
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#18
RE: Proof, If Any Were Needed, That
(October 14, 2016 at 9:56 am)Divinity Wrote: TBQH I'm sick of this bullshit where people deflect to the idea that other countries treat women worse, so treating women poorly over here is perfectly A-OK.  It's the "THERES STARVING KIDS IN AFRICA!" bullshit excuse.  "But these countries treat women poorly, and people accept their money?"  SO THE FUCK WHAT?  That doesn't mean they support those countries views on women.  Fuck, they'd like to change them, but it's not like they can FORCE them to change by NOT accepting their money.  The only way you CAN hope to change things is to form better relations with these countries.  Apparently that goes over some people's head.  You can't change a culture overnight.  Shit, look at all the fuck good the Cuban embargo did.

Also calling Donald Trump Jr. a piece of shit has nothing to do with his father running for office.  It's not an argument used to convince people not to vote for Trump.  It's an argument that Donald Trump's son is a piece of shit.  (Which is actually an argument against Hillary's judgment, since she praised his children in the last debate.)

Using that reasoning one can easily make the argument that it's acceptable to take money from the KKK under the guise that you don't agree with them and will endeavor to affect change.

Edited to fix formatting. Will add additional comments in another post.
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#19
RE: Proof, If Any Were Needed, That
Nowhere did I infer that ill treatment of women here is okay, that's absurd. I agree with your observations regarding the Cuban embargo, it was shit policy, but the mechanism isn't the same. We aren't going to change Wahhabism by getting cozy with the Sauds.
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#20
RE: Proof, If Any Were Needed, That
Another account of Drumpf the Pig.

http://www.rawstory.com/2016/10/woman-sa...nightclub/

Quote:Woman says Donald Trump tried reach up skirt and grab her genitals at NYC nightclub

Quote:Another woman has come forward with allegations that Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump reached up her skirt and grabbed at her vagina when she was trying to have a conversation with friends at a Manhattan nightclub in the early 1990s.
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