Christian Self-censorship of Dirty Words

[Faith No More]

Hm? He didn't bring God into the equation at all. He was merely explaining how/why some people are offended with certain words by showing the OP that he too is probably a person who is offended by certain words.

The discussion is how Christians and non-Christians view certain words differently. If that difference isn't Jesus, what is it?

[Sterben]

Do you use the "N" word?

Why not?

Do you sit idle when someone is just using in a casual conversation?

Why not?

Can't you see you have similar prohibitions for the exact same reason, just with different parts of the Lexicon?

We don't use the n-word, because it will offend others.  So, what you're saying is that it hurts god's feelings to say "pussy?"

How...human...

       Words should be able to be freely used as the user see's fit. If a lot of humans were not so easily offended, the world be a better a place. I remember once I saw a clip of a news station censoring the word 'Nigeria", their reasons for it was that it offends people.

[Catholic_Lady]

Sane vs insane was an extreme example to explain what I meant. And that is that having a better ability vs a lesser ability (for whatever reason) to turn down temptation is taken into account when measuring someone's character. But this does not change natural law (objective morality). I'm not sure if God "creating" natural law is necessarily the best way to put it. Natural law is simply in accordance with God's nature. God is good and God is love. Love can't be hate. God couldn't have "created" a world where natural law said that murder is moral, for example. 

No?  Then how come he's always killing in the OT?  I suppose killing all the first born in Egypt and calling for people's death for things like working on the Sabbath are good and loving?

Also, I wouldn't say God specifically/purposely created people to have more difficulty vs less difficulty with any particular thing. He simply allows nature to take its coarse. It's in our genetics to be better at some things and worse at other things, to have our strengths and to have our weaknesses. God isn't around micromanaging the type of people we are born as and what goes on inside the womb when DNA is coming together to create a new person. 

When I say "who we are in our hearts" I'm basically just talking about what type of person someone is - whether a good person or a bad person (to put it simply).  

That is measured based on the choices we make.... combined with our ability to make those choices, our knowledge, our intent, what is going on in our minds when we make them, etc. That's why I keep using the extreme example of an insane person. They may have done something really bad but if they were literally out of their minds and blacked out when they did it, it doesn't necessarily mean they are bad people.

But we now know is that what you call letting "nature take its course" is that who we are is greatly shaped by the environment we grow up in.  Our brains are reactive and develop based upon how we are raised.  For instance, we know that children that are abused are much more likely to turn to violence themselves.  Surely a kid is innocent when/she is born.  They can't help who they are born to, so being raised by evil parents is not their fault.  Yet that will largely determine who they become later in life.  Why is God judging people for their character when much of what that character is is determined by circumstances beyond their control?

First response: I'll let a Christian who believes in the literal interpretation of the OT answer that one, as it does not apply to my personal beliefs. 

Second: Same "rules" apply. Whether it's genetic, environmental, etc... that will all be taken into account to measure culpability, and thus to measure a person's character at their core.

[Catholic_Lady]

Hm? He didn't bring God into the equation at all. He was merely explaining how/why some people are offended with certain words by showing the OP that he too is probably a person who is offended by certain words.

The discussion is how Christians and non-Christians view certain words differently.  If that difference isn't Jesus, what is it?

Is that the discussion though? I don't think the OP said anything about theists thinking certain words are offensive while atheists think certain different words are offensive, and why there is a supposed difference in the words each groups finds offensive. Looks like he was just talking about people ("mostly religious") being offended by "dirty words:"

Do you ever notice that some people, usually extremely religious people, just totally lose their shit when dirty words are spoken? 

Drich's point was to show that "religious people" aren't the only ones who are offended by dirty words.

[Sterben]

The discussion is how Christians and non-Christians view certain words differently.  If that difference isn't Jesus, what is it?

Is that the discussion though? I don't think the OP said anything about theists thinking certain words are offensive while atheists think certain different words are offensive, and why there is a supposed difference in the words each groups finds offensive. Looks like he was just talking about people ("mostly religious") being offended by "dirty words:"

Do you ever notice that some people, usually extremely religious people, just totally lose their shit when dirty words are spoken? 

Drich's point was to show that "religious people" aren't the only ones who are offended by dirty words.

       If it's a religious affiliation or a individuals interpretation of words being offensive, it should not make a difference of the words he or uses. Offense words that are used to excises a point or used to in slanderer can be acceptable depending on the persons culture. If you look at this list of words "Nigger, cunt, wetback, tarbaby, kike, jap, rag-head, or porch monkey." All these words are used to slanderer another. "Fuck, *Bitch*, shit, ass-hole, shit-head, fuck off", with exception of "Bitch", these words are also offense. Do we have a right to take these words and their meanings away from the culture or sub-cultures who use these words on a frequent basis? I don't believe we should. We have no right to stop people from using these words if they chose to, as long they understand the meaning of the words. If a white teenager is using the word "Nigger" or "Nigga" cause he or she likes Rap music, does that make that person a racist automatically? Or if he or she uses a swear word in the proper context;Ex: Tim who is 16. is standing in a line at his schools cafeteria. He see's a female student being very indecisive about what she wants to order and is making the line grow longer.

        Would it be rude for Tim to blurt out "For fuck-sake's, would you please order something and move along?" She does not know what kind of day Tim was having, maybe his girlfriend or boyfriend just broke up with him, or he got a bad grade on a test that he studied for, or he's just really hungry.

[Catholic_Lady]

^I'm not sure how that's a response to anything I said. I'm not making a case for or against using dirty words.

[Sterben]

^I'm not sure how that's a response to anything I said. I'm not making a case for or against using dirty words.

        I was making a point about language and culture, since these two points are connected to religions and the culture of the user of the words.

[Cecelia]

I know a Christian who thinks it's a sin. Not sure why he does. In fact he won't buy a dictionary because it has bad words in it.

[Arkilogue]

Second: Same "rules" apply. Whether it's genetic, environmental, etc... that will all be taken into account to measure culpability, and thus to measure a person's character at their core.

If God doesn't have a sense of humor, I think we're all screwed...and not in the good way.

[Arkilogue]

        Would it be rude for Tim to blurt out "For fuck-sake's, would you please order something and move along?" She does not know what kind of day Tim was having, maybe his girlfriend or boyfriend just broke up with him, or he got a bad grade on a test that he studied for, or he's just really hungry.

Hangry. Tim is hangry. Tim could also take the Raplie May approach and say "It's obvious your having trouble, let me show you how it's done." But then Tim is a man-splaining shitlord....whatcha gonna do?