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Apparitions from heaven???
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 RE: Apparitions from heaven???
November 1, 2016 at 9:42 pm
(This post was last modified: November 1, 2016 at 9:42 pm by Jehanne.)
The fact that thousands of people congregated there in the first place, just on the say so of a few kids, says a lot about their state of mind anyway; it suggests that most of them were 'the faithful' who went there already believing in miracles... whether they believed the kids or not about their specific claims... and expecting or hoping to see a miracle... and they'd be the ones that did indeed perceive a miracle.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
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November 1, 2016 at 9:45 pm
(This post was last modified: November 1, 2016 at 9:46 pm by Jehanne.)
(November 1, 2016 at 9:42 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote:(November 1, 2016 at 9:09 pm)Irrational Wrote: Why jump unhesitantly to the conclusion it must be a miracle? We have good psychological explanations for why stuff like this happens, whether it's to do with selective attention, misinterpretation, biases, illusions, mass hysteria, etc. You forget (over and over) that some individuals denied that anything supernatural was happening at all! Some also claimed that the ground, which was soaked from all the rain, also became miraculously dry, as did their clothes. (November 1, 2016 at 9:42 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote:(November 1, 2016 at 9:09 pm)Irrational Wrote: Why jump unhesitantly to the conclusion it must be a miracle? We have good psychological explanations for why stuff like this happens, whether it's to do with selective attention, misinterpretation, biases, illusions, mass hysteria, etc. It's no different than thousands of people sharing the same mass delusion at say a Benny Hinn meeting... carpet time and giggling. To you that might be a miracle but to me that's just mass hypnosis and the power of suggestion.  (November 1, 2016 at 9:42 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote:(November 1, 2016 at 9:09 pm)Irrational Wrote: Why jump unhesitantly to the conclusion it must be a miracle? We have good psychological explanations for why stuff like this happens, whether it's to do with selective attention, misinterpretation, biases, illusions, mass hysteria, etc. Aside from what the others have already said, I do want to point out that a coincidence is not one that is impossible by definition. They are always happening actually. In fact, the "remarkability" of certain coincidences are more products of perception. It is you, a rational being, who decides that they are remarkable. |
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