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RE: Where would you rather live?
August 30, 2010 at 8:36 pm
(This post was last modified: August 30, 2010 at 8:37 pm by Oldandeasilyconfused.)
Quote:I would choose a theocratic state, only because I believe that such a state would, overall, be more interesting to live
Am I to gather from that you have not so much as visited such a country? I've done both;'interesting' is not the first word which springs to mind. You win the prize for the most fatuous comment of the week; dinner for two with Paris Hilton. (second prize is two dinners)
Quote:Most of the world's artists, musicians, poets, playwrights, authors, dancers, are theists.
Well yes,there are a LOT more theists than atheists. (most scientists are atheists)
Quote:It seems that theists have more imagination and creative flair than atheists.
Non sequitor based on a logical fallacy,equating correlation and causation.
That many people may be creative AND theist. However, there is no evidence to suggest they are creative BECAUSE they are theists.
Quote:Wait, hold on. I'm not saying that all atheists are unimaginative. What I'm saying is that the mindset of an atheist is not very conducive to creativity
There is no such thing as an atheist mindset. An atheist is merely a person who does not believe in god(s). Nothing else may be implied or inferred. We are just ordinary people with the same qualities as the rest of the human race,good and bad. That statement and your overall attitude to atheists is ignorant and offensive. (Replace the word 'atheist' with 'Jew' 'black' or 'woman')
Arguably a character flaw,but I don't suffer fools. Consequently, I have nothing further to say to you.
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RE: Where would you rather live?
August 30, 2010 at 8:40 pm
Padraic has missed the point completely.
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RE: Where would you rather live?
August 30, 2010 at 8:41 pm
(August 30, 2010 at 8:40 pm)Scarface Wrote: Padraic has missed the point completely.
Nonetheless, he is completely correct in all of his assertions.
If today you can take a thing like evolution and make it a crime to teach in the public schools, tomorrow you can make it a crime to teach it in the private schools and next year you can make it a crime to teach it to the hustings or in the church. At the next session you may ban books and the newspapers...
Ignorance and fanaticism are ever busy and need feeding. Always feeding and gloating for more. Today it is the public school teachers; tomorrow the private. The next day the preachers and the lecturers, the magazines, the books, the newspapers. After a while, Your Honor, it is the setting of man against man and creed against creed until with flying banners and beating drums we are marching backward to the glorious ages of the sixteenth centry when bigots lighted fagots to burn the men who dared to bring any intelligence and enlightenment and culture to the human mind. ~Clarence Darrow, at the Scopes Monkey Trial, 1925
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RE: Where would you rather live?
August 30, 2010 at 8:44 pm
Ok let's just agree that the atheist mindset is not very useful in creativity.
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RE: Where would you rather live?
August 30, 2010 at 8:50 pm
(August 30, 2010 at 8:44 pm)Scarface Wrote: Ok let's just agree that the atheist mindset is not very useful in creativity.
That's not what anyone said. The things that were said were functionally the opposite of that thing you just said.
If today you can take a thing like evolution and make it a crime to teach in the public schools, tomorrow you can make it a crime to teach it in the private schools and next year you can make it a crime to teach it to the hustings or in the church. At the next session you may ban books and the newspapers...
Ignorance and fanaticism are ever busy and need feeding. Always feeding and gloating for more. Today it is the public school teachers; tomorrow the private. The next day the preachers and the lecturers, the magazines, the books, the newspapers. After a while, Your Honor, it is the setting of man against man and creed against creed until with flying banners and beating drums we are marching backward to the glorious ages of the sixteenth centry when bigots lighted fagots to burn the men who dared to bring any intelligence and enlightenment and culture to the human mind. ~Clarence Darrow, at the Scopes Monkey Trial, 1925
Politics is supposed to be the second-oldest profession. I have come to realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first. ~Ronald Reagan
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RE: Where would you rather live?
August 31, 2010 at 7:45 am
You sound like a robot, which proves my point.
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RE: Where would you rather live?
August 31, 2010 at 8:34 am
(August 30, 2010 at 7:13 pm)Scarface Wrote: Most of the world's artists, musicians, poets, playwrights, authors, dancers, are theists. It seems that theists have more imagination and creative flair than atheists. Everyon has their strengths, and for atheists, creativity doesn't appear to be one of them. This s a generalization of course but it's hard to ignore the pattern. This isn't a criticism of atheism, just an observation.
Please be good enough to quote the study or the statistics that you have based this statement on.
Otherwise I can only conclude that you are talking out of your arse.
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RE: Where would you rather live?
August 31, 2010 at 8:41 am
Everything you say proves my point. Of course you want statistics, and pie charts, and lists. You love that stuff. That has nothing to do with creativity, however. You're missing the point, and you're doing so in the typical style of someone who doesn't have a creative mind. Theists are far more creative than people like you.
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RE: Where would you rather live?
August 31, 2010 at 8:43 am
You have no proof that theists are far more creative. Statistics have everything to do with determining the veracity of your statement; that is why we want them. We don't just believe anything that comes out of someone's mouth...you may do, but we don't. We are skeptics; we demand evidence, not just what you think.
Oh, and by the way, there are far more theists who are murderers than atheists who are murderers. By your logic, that means that theists are *far* better at murdering people than atheists. Do you really want to live in a forced theocracy now?
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RE: Where would you rather live?
August 31, 2010 at 8:47 am
Adrian, you're supporting my argument. Listen to yourself...
statistics
determining
veracity
statement
evidence
Does that sound like the words of a creative person? I dare you to write a poem using those words. It better be good.
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