Where would you rather live?

[Entropist]

Ok let's just agree that the atheist mindset is not very useful in creativity.

Yeah, they are utterly emotionless, cold-hearted bastards:

Ralph Vaughan Williams: The Lark Ascending




Dmitri Shostakovich: String Quartet No. 8 (fifth movement)




Nikolai Rimsky-Korsakov: Scheherezade

[Zen Badger]

Everything you say proves my point. Of course you want statistics, and pie charts, and lists. You love that stuff. That has nothing to do with creativity, however. You're missing the point, and you're doing so in the typical style of someone who doesn't have a creative mind. Theists are far more creative than people like you.

Yes, just making shit up is much more creative than using boring old facts isn't it?

Wanker!

(Oops, sorry, didn't mean to say that)

[Tiberius]

Adrian, you're supporting my argument. Listen to yourself...

statistics
determining
veracity
statement
evidence

Does that sound like the words of a creative person? I dare you to write a poem using those words. It better be good.

I'm not being creative at the moment; I'm trying to be rational here. You are making the assertion that theists are more creative that atheists, and your reasoning is that there are more creative theists than there are creative atheists.

The problem is, you aren't doing a proper comparison. We don't compare numbers in statistics, we compare relative values. That is, what proportion of atheists are creative, vs the proportion of theists that are creative.

Otherwise, my argument stands as well. Theists make better murderers, rapists, thieves...etc. We should start locking you all up since you all have a much higher chance of turning into criminals than atheists do.

[Zen Badger]

P.s I penned this a couple of weeks ago after a good Sundays ride on my Fazer....

The motorcycles song.

My bike, she sings a song,
A song of power, a song of speed.
A song of flight, of balance, of the need.
She sings of solitude, of the countless lonely miles.
A song of meetings at the end of the long days ride.
She sings a song that the beige people cannot hear, or ever hope to understand.
A sirens song, that tempts me to the ragged edge of disaster, then drags me back.
Sobbing, crying, shaking...... and ready to do it again.
A song that swoops, rises, curves and falls. A song that is mellow, yet leaves me drained.
She sings to my heart to keep it beating, she sings in my soul and gives it meaning.
A song of one. One with the road, one with my bike.
One with myself.
My bike, she sings a song.
And it is a very, very seductive song.


So you can take your asinine assumption and stuff it in the usual aperture.

[Scarface]

No Adrian you've got that all wrong. My argument is not based on the fact that there are more theists than atheists. That's just something which you dreamed up (very creative, I'll give you that). If I was like you, right now I'd ask you to show evidence that my argument is based on numbers.

I'll clarify, so that you understand exactly what I'm saying and what I'm not saying. It's not the atheism itself which is the problem. I'll say exactly the same thing about scientists (since not all atheists are scientists, of course). Again, it's not the fact of being a scientist that's the issue. It's the mindset. Some people like to think in a very technical manner. Scientists for example. Atheists often use science in their arguments. They too are very technically minded. But when you have a strength in one area, it often also manifests as a weakness in another.

[The Omnissiunt One]

If you look at comedians, musicians, writers, poets and so on in the West today, I bet you that there won't be relatively fewer than in the population as a whole. Atheists are just more rational when it comes to one issue: God. That says nothing about what they're like otherwise. I like rational debate, but I'm also quite creative. If I weren't a rational sceptic, I'd put that down to being a Pisces. Go figure.