He won the election.
Deal with it.
Deal with it.
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Are these protesters part of the 'participation award' generation ??
If so, JFC, give Hillary a participation award, and STFU. The granting of a pardon is an imputation of guilt, and the acceptance a confession of it.
 (November 10, 2016 at 12:21 pm)Bella Morte Wrote: He won the election. They are dealing with it, in their own way. What you mean is, shut up and ignore it. Not the same thing. So, what they are protesting is his presidency and proposed "plans". The chants include things on climate change and on immigration so far. They have a perfect right to protest his supposes policy proposals.
“Eternity is a terrible thought. I mean, where's it going to end?”
― Tom Stoppard, Rosencrantz and Guildenstern Are Dead 
I don't care if they protest, as long as they do it peacefully and channel their enthusiasm into winning midterm elections. If they lose the next election, it's just hot air.
I'm not anti-Christian. I'm anti-stupid.
 (November 10, 2016 at 12:02 pm)Minimalist Wrote:(November 10, 2016 at 11:06 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Are they specifically protesting the way we do voting then? I mean like the electoral thing? If so, that would make more sense. They're just further pushing ppl away from their preferred party/ideology by doing that though. They're coming off as entitled and bratty bc their candidate didn't win. Most ppl who voted for Trump are middle aged blue collar workers who think millennials and their liberal ideologies are lazy and entitled. These protests are only validating what Trump voters already think of "the other side."
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
-walsh  (November 10, 2016 at 12:13 am)Rhythm Wrote: The job now, I suppose, is to help Trump and his supporters self destruct. On the bright side, all you need for that is a camera phone. :p
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."
-Stephen Jay Gould  (November 10, 2016 at 1:30 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote:(November 10, 2016 at 12:02 pm)Minimalist Wrote: I doubt there is that much thought behind it, C/L. They're just mad. And when Drumpf's fans wear sheets and hoods, carry guns and wave rebel flags they play into what the other side thinks of racist rubes. It works both ways. (November 10, 2016 at 1:07 am)Anomalocaris Wrote:(November 10, 2016 at 12:58 am)Minimalist Wrote: A day late and a dollar short. The 'day late' part makes me wonder, though... Trump got 200,000 fewer votes than McCain in 2008 and 1.2 million fewer votes than Romney in 2012. Clinton got 9.5 million fewer votes than Obama in 2008 and 6 million fewer than in 2012. How many of those protesters stayed home on November 8th?
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."
-Stephen Jay Gould
Trump had double the support with black voters compared to Romney.
IOWs, there are stats somewhere for ANYTHING anyone wants to claim. The granting of a pardon is an imputation of guilt, and the acceptance a confession of it.
I agree, and a state-by-state breakdown would shed more light on where the losses were and what a difference they might make. But that is a very large number of votes lost and I think it would be easy to make a case that she wins convincingly with the added support.
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."
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