How Much Evidence Will It Take You To Believe In God???

[Edward John]

Greetings! fellow Citizens of atheism and theism, discussions Atheist Forum.
The Question is, how much evidence will it take you to believe in Gods existence?

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Will you be open to the evidence and do you want to find God? Are you interested? Are you absolutely sure there is no God? If not, then is it not possible that there is a God? And if it is possible that God exists, then can you think of any reason that would keep you from wanting to look at the evidence? Or are you looking for excuses to avoid God, so that you can do whatever you want without having to worry about God judging you? Ask yourself: Do I have wrong motives? Is there anything (or anyone) that I love more than God?


We can’t see God-Nope But you can’t see your brain. We can't see God but there are many things that we can't see but we believe in them because we can see their effects, for example we can’t oxygen or love, but we know it’s real.

For example, you have never seen your great great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great great, great, great, great, great great, great grandfather. You have never seen his house, clothes, grave or any of his belongings. So how can you be sure he ever existed?

You know he must have existed because you exist. God is a spirit, which means He is invisible to us. He doesn't have a physical body like we do, which means He is not limited in the same ways we are. He doesn't get sick, grow old, or get injured like we do. He can be everywhere at once.

We can’t touch God directly-Nope But you can’t touch your brain. God is a spirit.

We can’t Hear God-Not to everyone in the same way God speaks in different ways for example, Jesus Christ founded the Catholic Church to bring all men to eternal salvation. My sheep hear my voice, and I know them and they follow me. And I give them everlasting life; and they shall never perish, neither shall anyone snatch them out of my hand. (John 10:27-28)

Do you know where you are going when you die? You turn to dust, are you 100% sure that is all? What if there is a Heaven, Purgatory, Hell. Where are you going to place your bet?

If you place it with God, you lose nothing, even if it turns out that God does not exist. But if you place it against God, and you are wrong and God does exist, you lose everything: God, eternity, heaven, infinite gain. "Let us assess the two cases: if you win, you win everything, if you lose, you lose nothing."

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·        God is the best explanation of the beginning of the universe.

·        God is the best explanation of the fine-tuning of the universe for intelligent life.

·        God is the best explanation of objective moral values and duties in the world.

·        God is the best explanation of the historical facts concerning Jesus of Nazareth and God can be personally known and experienced.

·        Something can't from Nothing. How did the planets form when the Big Bang explosion all of a sudden happen? After all, you don’t see round objects form when something blows up.

·        Eternal Universe? That doesn’t work because the second law of thermodynamics states that the universe is running out of usable energy and if you doubt this, look in the mirror (you’re aging and running down just like everything else). 

·        Life can't from Non-Life. There is no evidence whatsoever.

·        Order can't come from chaos. Something exploded and we’ll all here.

·        Immaterial(thoughts) can't come from physical matter.

·        Would you also agree that just because we cannot see God with our eyes does not necessarily mean He doesn’t exist?

·        If God exists in our mind only and is the greatest possible being and object which no greater being and object can be thought of then God by definition is greater than our minds, Therefore God must exist. The ontological argument shows that if God even possibly exists then God actually exists. Which means God is existence itself.


I know you've seen all this a number of times now, but are you interested today? Do you agree that an open-minded person should be willing to look at all the evidence? If so, then are you willing to look at the evidence for God’s existence? “And without faith it is impossible to please God, because anyone who comes to Him must believe that He exists and that He rewards those who earnestly seek Him” (Hebrews 11:6). But why does God wants us to have faith? I can testify and God is my witness, if you do not have faith, rock solid faith, you are not likely to spiritually survive the coming demonic onslaught to planet earth in these end times.

Lets say God appeared to you in his glory, It's still down to your faith because, you have the option to believe that it was God or was just a hallucination. If it was a miracle, you have the free will to believe it was by chance or was of God or faked etc. Here is the key that so many miss today. In order to obey God's commands you must believe what God is telling you.  Doubt in God's word is always the devils target therefore his target when he attacks you is your faith. 

Nevertheless when the Son of man cometh, shall he find faith on the earth? Luke 18  

“I'll obey you when it's convenient for me...”, kind of belief isn't going to save anyone's soul. Rather, its just the grease that slides millions of nominal 'Unbelievers' into hellfire.



God is looking for people who will trust him, obey him and most importantly

love him. Trust and faith are key components of love and he is looking for us to

demonstrate these traits to the Lord.

[Expired]

Any evidence would be a start.

[Whateverist]

All you got to do is produce one god - just one - and I personally will concede the matter to you.

[vorlon13]

It's just about sunrise here, or rather, the God Apollo is about to light up everything around here with the equivalent of over 1000 watts of power per square yard, and guess what ?


I still don't fucking believe the sun is the God Apollo !!!


What does Edward John have in his sack to top what Apollo is doing outside right now that I would find MORE compelling ??

[Edwardo Piet]

God is a non-concept like a square circle. I won't believe in a god.

[Napoléon]

Oh look, something original.

[Full Circle]

FFS. What a waste of perfectly good font sizes and colors. We’ll never get those back.

[robvalue]

Before there can be any evidence, you need a falsifiable definition for what you're claiming. "God did it" is not up to scratch.

Why should I care? This is a rather more important question. To evade all scientific scrutiny, God has to be so ethereal as to be entirely irrelevant.

https://youtu.be/JRdP5GpCeuE

[Cyberman]

"God" isn't the explanation, for anything. "God" is the claim. I would take just one compelling, unambiguous, unarguable, undisputed, and non-childish piece of evidence to be at least interested in changing my mind. But that's not down to me. It's not my problem to make your case for you and then say if I'm convinced by it, nor is it my fault if I haven't found such evidence as is usually presented convincing; that's your job.

Convince me, or don't, but don't pin the blame for the weakness of your arguments onto me.

[Aegon]

The only "god" I could believe in is the pandeistic God (which created the universe by becoming it, ceasing its own existence as a conscious being). And that only works because of the lack of pre-Big Bang knowledge. Any other system of belief revolving around a personal diety cannot be proven logically. Sorry bud