How Much Evidence Will It Take You To Believe In God???

[zebo-the-fat]

God doesn't need a reason before everything was created "on what he was doing" That's why the Bible doesn't say. Theologically speaking however we can assume what he was doing. God experienced absolute satisfaction in Himself. God dwelt joyfully alone in eternity as the Trinity. These three were together in fellowship with one another from all eternity. They loved each other. We know at some point they discussed the redemption of mankind, but everything else lies in mystery.

‘I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End,’ says the Lord, ‘who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty.’ Revelation 1:8

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So you admit you don't know, thank you  (though you keep banging on about a "reason" not a location)
Sounds like a load of bullshit to me

This does not mean however that God does not exist, Christianity is not only reason but REASON&FAITH.

Faith = not really knowing and reason seems to be lacking

[pocaracas]

You are an EOP, Whereas I am POE(Theist).

There, he said it.
We can all go home, now.


It was fun.
Well done, poe...

[drfuzzy]

‘I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End,’ says the Lord, ‘who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty.’ Revelation 1:8

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This does not mean however that God does not exist, Christianity is not only reason but REASON&FAITH.

Faith = not really knowing and reason seems to be lacking

Yep.  Faith = claiming to know something that you don't know.  If your gawd actually existed, that "faith" word would not exist.  And posting verses from an offensive, immoral book of bronze age goat-herder fairy tales in big colored letters - (yawn).  That got old about a thousand theists ago.

[Edwardo Piet]

He just has a lot of anxiety right now:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zv5sjwtKHYM

[Joods]

That's because the bible is bullshit. Just. Like. You.

How you know?  How do you know Jesus even lived? 

Whee this is fun!

How do YOU know Jesus even lived? Oh.. and saying "because the bible says so" is NOT a scientifically proven answer. So... let's see your factual, scientific proof that Jesus even existed at all.

C'mon witless wonder! You can do it! Show me the proof!

[Edward John]

"My strength is dried up like a potsherd, And my tongue cleaves to my jaws; And Thou dost lay me in the dust of death. For dogs have surrounded me; A band of evildoers has encompassed me; They pierced my hands and my feet.  I can count all my bones. They look, they stare at me; They divide my garments among them, And for my clothing they cast lots." Psalm 22(Prophecy Christ Crucifixion).

That Psalm was written about 1000 years before Christ was born. In fact, that Psalm begins with the verse "My God, My God, why have you forsaken me?" which is what Jesus quoted on the cross. The point is this. The Bible contains prophecy--detailed prophecy about Christ--that has come true.  

Did you know?

The Old Testament was completed around 400 B.C. This is a historic fact, and there is nobody anywhere of any educational level who's studied it that disagrees with this. In the 1940s a shepherd boy in the Israel area accidentally discovered a pot full of ancient manuscripts.  Some of them were dated around 100 years before Christ. 

[Joods]

I'm just going to leave this here.

[Joods]

And this gem as well:

[Edward John]

How you know?  How do you know Jesus even lived? 

Whee this is fun!

How do YOU know Jesus even lived? Oh.. and saying "because the bible says so" is NOT a scientifically proven answer. So... let's see your factual, scientific proof that Jesus even existed at all.

C'mon witless wonder! You can do it! Show me the proof!

100% Proof Jesus existed.
Proof 1: The Shroud of Turin.



Proof 2: Cornelius Tacitus (A.D. 55-120) was considered the greatest historian of ancient Rome.

He wrote of Nero who "punished with the most exquisite tortures, the persons commonly called Christians, who were hated for their enormities. Christus [Christ], the founder of the name, was put to death by Pontius Pilate, procurator of Judea in the reign of Tiberius: but the pernicious superstition, repressed for a time, broke out again, not only through Judea, where the mischief originiated, but through the city of Rome also.

Wikipedia Wrote:

Cornelius Tacitus (/ˈtæsᵻtəs/; Classical Latin: [ˈtakɪtʊs]; c. AD 56 – c. AD 120) was a senator and a historian of the Roman Empire. The surviving portions of his two major works—the Annals and the Histories—examine the reigns of the Roman emperors Tiberius, Claudius, Nero, and those who reigned in the Year of the Four Emperors (AD 69). These two works span the history of the Roman Empire from the death of Augustus in AD 14 to the years of the First Jewish–Roman War in AD 70. There are substantial lacunae in the surviving texts, including a gap in the Annals that is four books long.

Also, Flavius Josephus, a Jewish historian, (A.D. 38-100+) wrote about Jesus in his Jewish Antiquities, saying that Jesus was a wise man who did surprising feats, taught many, won over followers from among Jews and Greeks, that Jesus was believed to be the Messiah, was accused by the Jewish leaders, was condemned to be crucified by Pilate, and was considered to be resurrected.

Wikipedia Wrote:
Born Joseph ben Matityahu (Hebrew: יוסף בן מתתיהו, Yosef ben Matityahu; Greek: Ἰώσηπος Ματθίου), was a first-century Romano-Jewish scholar, historian and hagiographer, who was born in Jerusalem—then part of Roman Judea—to a father of priestly descent and a mother who claimed royal ancestry.

The existence of Jesus Christ is recorded not only by Josephus and Tacitus, but also by ancient writers such as Suetonius, Thallus, Pliny the Younger, and Lucian.


And from the Jewish Talmud, "we learn that Jesus was conceived out of wedlock, gathered disciples, made blasphemous claims about himself, and worked miracles, but these miracles are attributed to sorcery and not to God."
Thus, historians both favorable and unfavorable regarding Jesus did write about him. Also there were many historical writings about the early Christians.

Wikipedia Wrote:

The Talmud (/ˈtɑːlmʊd, -məd, ˈtæl-/; Hebrew: תַּלְמוּד talmūd "instruction, learning", from a root LMD "teach, study") is a central text of Rabbinic Judaism. It is also traditionally referred to as Shas (ש״ס), a Hebrew abbreviation of shisha sedarim, the "six orders", a reference to the six orders of the Mishnah. The term "Talmud" normally refers to the collection of writings named specifically the Babylonian Talmud (Talmud Bavli), although there is also an earlier collection known as the Jerusalem Talmud, or Palestinian Talmud[1] (Talmud Yerushalmi). When referring to post-biblical periods, namely those of the creation of the Talmud, the Talmudic academies and the Babylonian exilarchate, Jewish sources use the term "Babylonia" long after it had become obsolete in geopolitical terms.

[brewer]

"My strength is dried up like a potsherd, And my tongue cleaves to my jaws; And Thou dost lay me in the dust of death. For dogs have surrounded me; A band of evildoers has encompassed me; They pierced my hands and my feet.  I can count all my bones. They look, they stare at me; They divide my garments among them, And for my clothing they cast lots." Psalm 22(Prophecy Christ Crucifixion).

That Psalm was written about 1000 years before Christ was born. In fact, that Psalm begins with the verse "My God, My God, why have you forsaken me?" which is what Jesus quoted on the cross. The point is this. The Bible contains prophecy--detailed prophecy about Christ--that has come true.  

Did you know?

The Old Testament was completed around 400 B.C. This is a historic fact, and there is nobody anywhere of any educational level who's studied it that disagrees with this. In the 1940s a shepherd boy in the Israel area accidentally discovered a pot full of ancient manuscripts.  Some of them were dated around 100 years before Christ. 

Psalm 22? Nice cherry picking. This was not a prophecy and had nothing to do with jesus.