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Would you vote for Tim Kaine?
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RE: Would you vote for Tim Kaine?
Quote:One might think that if Trump shows even modest successes in job growth, rising incomes, lowering of tensions overseas, there might be net increase in the numbers of 'pub seats in the House and Senate.

Yeah, pigs may fly, too.  He didn't just promise job growth ( Obama is doing that!) he promised to bring back well paid manufacturing jobs from overseas that people with a 10th grade education could handle.

Those jobs aren't coming back no matter what the Orange Baboon says.
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#12
RE: Would you vote for Tim Kaine?
Is it automatic the pubs are guaranteed to lose congressional seats in 2018 ?

No matter what ?
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#13
RE: Would you vote for Tim Kaine?
(November 16, 2016 at 3:07 pm)vorlon13 Wrote: One might think that if Trump shows even modest successes in job growth, rising incomes, lowering of tensions overseas, there might be net increase in the numbers of 'pub seats in the House and Senate.

The OLD way of looking at that is the party in power always loses seats during the first midterm elections.

Shouldn't the DNC poohbahs at least CONSIDER the possibility Trump will get more 'pub seats in Congress in 2018 ??


How many hacks and old timers do we want running the DNC TODAY ?

It's a new fucking game, old rules are out, and there needs to be some big changes in thinking that we are NOT seeing.

Unless trump manages to boot the mexicans and restore the white male the dems could prop hillary up again and the repubs would lose all other things being equal.  That "portion" of his vote was instrumental.
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#14
RE: Would you vote for Tim Kaine?
(November 16, 2016 at 3:17 pm)vorlon13 Wrote: Is it automatic the pubs are guaranteed to lose congressional seats in 2018 ?

No matter what ?

That's the historical trend.  The party out of power is more energized.

Even in 1942, in the middle of a war, the republicunts gained 45 seats in the house and 8 seats in the senate.  Of course, they were so far in the shitter that even that did not give them majorities in either house.
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RE: Would you vote for Tim Kaine?
If Tim Kaine is really who they'll prep for the 2020 election, they're either ridiculously stupid or just in denial (of the fact that the establishment will have to get more progressive if it wants a snowball's chance at keeping its constituents.)
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#16
RE: Would you vote for Tim Kaine?
I might vote for Kaine; but I hope that's not who they're running.

Just throwing out a name: Kamala Harris. AG of CA, just got elected Senator.
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#17
RE: Would you vote for Tim Kaine?
(November 16, 2016 at 3:17 pm)vorlon13 Wrote: Is it automatic the pubs are guaranteed to lose congressional seats in 2018 ?

No matter what ?


I myself have had plenty of crow.  Absolutely stuffed now.  I'm not ready to say the sun is coming up on the DNC tomorrow.  Will just have to wait and see.
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#18
RE: Would you vote for Tim Kaine?
(November 16, 2016 at 4:30 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote: I might vote for Kaine; but I hope that's not who they're running.

Just throwing out a name: Kamala Harris. AG of CA, just got elected Senator.

Yes, Harris is considered a rising star in the party -- certainly someone to keep an eye on.

And Kaine? I would only vote for him to prevent his starting a high profile career as a harmonica player in some band I love. I get why Hillary selected him as a running mate, but I was underwhelmed, to say the least. Then again, I was underwhelmed by Hillary.

It's a damn shame that Jerry Brown is now about 186 fucking years old. He's long since shed his hippy-drippy image and has emerged as someone with serious policy and executive chops -- but much too late in life for a Presidential run. Alas.
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RE: Would you vote for Tim Kaine?
(November 16, 2016 at 4:26 pm)Aegon Wrote: If Tim Kaine is really who they'll prep for the 2020 election, they're either ridiculously stupid or just in denial (of the fact that the establishment will have to get more progressive if it wants a snowball's chance at keeping its constituents.)

It's not an issue of denial.  Their concerns are not your concerns.  This is business as usual, and never forget...it's a fucking business.
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#20
RE: Would you vote for Tim Kaine?
They need someone that people are really going to get excited about and I doubt that is Kaine. Voters came out in droves for Obama. People ran to Bernie in joy. Clinton and Kaine got a ton of reluctant voters and millions that couldn't be bothered to vote at all. Surely we'll have a better candidate by 2020.
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