The BIG one is Mark and Luke not agreeing on Jesus death providing atonement for sin.
The granting of a pardon is an imputation of guilt, and the acceptance a confession of it.
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Theists: would you view the truth?
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It looks like Vorlon has shifted from contradictions in the text to contradicting interpretations of the text. I can do that in my sleep.
The Bible is absolutely full of contradictions. It's about as imperfect and worldly a document can get. Not what you'd expect from the creator of the universe.
(December 1, 2016 at 6:33 pm)Alasdair Ham Wrote: The Bible is absolutely full of contradictions. It's about as imperfect and worldly a document can get. Not what you'd expect from the creator of the universe.God didn't write the bible, dimwit. Men inspired by God did. Big difference. If you want to critique a supposedly perfectly transcribed direct from God text go for the Koran.
You're not understanding me. Such unimpressive inspiration in the authors is not what you'd expect from the creator of the universe.
 RE: Theists: would you view the truth?
December 1, 2016 at 10:15 pm
(This post was last modified: December 1, 2016 at 10:18 pm by vorlon13.)
Stubbing a toe inspires Ted to write about the accident:
"I stubbed my toe", Ted writes. Terry also stubs a toe and informs us: "I stubbed my toe". God inspires Luke to write about Jesus going to His crucifixion: "Calm and in control, Jesus heads towards His crucifixion" God inspires Mark to write about Jesus going to His crucifixion: "Filled with doubt and despair, Jesus heads towards His crucifixion" Which Jesus do I believe in to guaranty Salvation®, understanding the wrong answer leads to eternal torments in the fiery lake FOREVER? The granting of a pardon is an imputation of guilt, and the acceptance a confession of it.
 (November 30, 2016 at 11:54 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: It would be shocking, devastating, and confusing. I'd feel pretty lost. But I'm not the type of person who just tells myself things that I know aren't true just to make myself feel better. If I went back in time and saw that Jesus never really existed, or that he wasn't who he said he was, I'd be honest with myself and accept it. Good to hear that Deb. If that were to be the case, I'd then ask you to tell me where you "really" think you get your morals from ... 
No God, No fear.
Know God, Know fear.  RE: Theists: would you view the truth?
December 2, 2016 at 6:25 am
(This post was last modified: December 2, 2016 at 6:38 am by robvalue.)
The thing is, if the words in the bible have value, I don't see why that value disappears even if the events turn out to be semi-fictional. If it's good advice, it continues to be good advice. In other words, belief in the original events doesn't seem to be all that relevant from the point of view of living this life. It just seems to be about making sure you're on the right side for the next life.
If you viewed the events and it's not what you thought, nothing has changed. You're still you, you still have your morality and values. Of course you'll realise you spent a great deal of time talking to nothing, which would be a shame. Feel free to send me a private message.
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