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RE: Christians never murdered anybody
December 14, 2016 at 5:59 pm
(December 8, 2016 at 9:12 am)mcolafson Wrote: [edit] I suppose atheists who killed christians were not real atheists?
Yes they were, but those were mercy killings! Totally justifiable.
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RE: Christians never murdered anybody
December 14, 2016 at 6:08 pm
(December 8, 2016 at 9:12 am)mcolafson Wrote: I wish I could find that web page again where a woman admits persecution of marranos and moriscos in Spain, but then says that persecutors were not real christians.
So, I suppose atheists who killed christians were not real atheists?
The bolded bit is a rather silly claim, as there is nothing about atheism per atheism which prohibits the taking of human life.
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RE: Christians never murdered anybody
December 14, 2016 at 6:11 pm
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RE: Christians never murdered anybody
December 14, 2016 at 6:15 pm
(December 8, 2016 at 9:12 am)mcolafson Wrote: I wish I could find that web page again where a woman admits persecution of marranos and moriscos in Spain, but then says that persecutors were not real christians.
So, I suppose atheists who killed christians were not real atheists?
So you started a thread to say you wish you could find a web page. Good to know.
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RE: Christians never murdered anybody
December 14, 2016 at 6:26 pm
(December 14, 2016 at 6:11 pm)vorlon13 Wrote:
'Thou shalt not kill! But, while you're about it, feel free to nail my son to this big wooden thingy.'
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RE: Christians never murdered anybody
December 14, 2016 at 6:53 pm
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RE: Christians never murdered anybody
December 14, 2016 at 8:36 pm
(December 8, 2016 at 9:12 am)mcolafson Wrote: I wish I could find that web page again where a woman admits persecution of marranos and moriscos in Spain, but then says that persecutors were not real christians.
So, I suppose atheists who killed christians were not real atheists?
These christian persecutors had better get real or it's about to get real up inside here!
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RE: Christians never murdered anybody
December 14, 2016 at 8:53 pm
(December 14, 2016 at 6:26 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: (December 14, 2016 at 6:11 pm)vorlon13 Wrote:
'Thou shalt not kill! But, while you're about it, feel free to nail my son to this big wooden thingy.'
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RE: Christians never murdered anybody
December 14, 2016 at 8:54 pm
(December 14, 2016 at 8:36 pm)Whateverist Wrote: These christian persecutors had better get real or it's about to get real up inside here!
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RE: Christians never murdered anybody
December 14, 2016 at 9:07 pm
(December 8, 2016 at 9:12 am)mcolafson Wrote: I wish I could find that web page again where a woman admits persecution of marranos and moriscos in Spain, but then says that persecutors were not real christians.
So, I suppose atheists who killed christians were not real atheists? https://lmgtfy.com/?q=a+woman+admits+per...christians.
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