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Why Didn't Jesus Write?
#61
RE: Why Didn't Jesus Write?
Jesus must have at least written in the snow.
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#62
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"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."

-Stephen Jay Gould
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#63
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Quote:So it can indeed be said what Christ wrote in the dirt, silenced the pharisees.

Dripshit, you redefine stupidity on a daily basis.
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#65
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(December 15, 2016 at 3:02 pm)Drich Wrote: 3rd time i asked you provide an alternative explanation the allows for the elements in the story to be used.
The story says that after he spoke to them and returned to writing on the ground, they began to leave.  It offers no timetable other than that, so why would we assume that they waited long?  And why would that be the criteria by which we interpret the story?  They heard what Jesus said.  The story gives no indication as to what he was writing, but it tells us what he said.  There is no good reason to interpret it any other way.

So, again-- why would you choose the least likely explanation when the more likely one is also the more sensible one?

Quote:I floated that idea out there so you would acknowledge God being a viable reason or support structure for him to write or not write.
That doesn't make sense.  YOU acknowledge God as being a viable reason for anything, so your claims would presumably take that into account.  I am pointing out that your excuses give us a scenario that works just fine without God.

Quote:And I'm pointing out that he has already done what you are suggesting he do with the OT, and it did not work out so well. Do try and keep up old sport.
And I pointed out that this doesn't look good on his resume.

Quote:Actually you are right, that was not the question. the original question I was answering was could Jesus READ And Write. I answered it with John 8 where it is recorded Jesus was writing.
I wasn't referring to the original question.

Quote:I'm now asking why wouldn't Jesus want to write down what he wanted... Hmmm Let's look at what happened when God took his finger and spelled out what he wanted. for over 1000 years the jews worship those writings as if they were God Himself. then after God stripped those stone fragments away they took the law and added to it perverting it till it became a burden not reflecting anything resembling what He wanted. Till Jesus walks in and points all of that out.
So Jesus failed and wanted to avoid another failure.  I already pointed that out.

Quote:Or one smart enough to know that stupid 1/2 breed monkey decedents tend to make idols out of the scraps God uses to simply communicate, So he clears the planet of them.
He tends to have clumsy solutions to problems of his own making, I have noticed.

Quote:God did not fail 'smart guy.' We did.
That doesn't make sense.  God is unable to create plans that will account for a condition that he bestowed upon humanity.  He is forced to deal with a situation of his own making and can't figure out a way around it that would convince everyone that he exists and how to get to know him.  It's a situation that suspiciously resembles a world where he doesn't exist.

Quote:Or if you weren't scared to work that little mind of your just a little harder, just a little past your typical shut down/close down point you'd see, that "He's not God, would have been the CORRECT answer if He allowed 2000 years of a Christ written gospel to corrupt the new covenant as the last handwritten document from God did with Judaism.
God needs to hire a better writer.

Quote:No If Christianity were a man inspired/fueled religion you would see the same failures the Jews made with God over and over again. starting with how God's word was issued.
*facepalm*

Quote:Let say for a moment God decided to simply create an account on AF.org and directly answer a few of your posts... how in the ff's would you know you were talking to God if you idea of Him was all screwed up in your little head, that says God can only be ABC?
Why is this question always asked in the context of God giving us one piece of evidence for his existence?  "If god showed up and performed a parlor trick..."

Maybe you expect too little from God.  You make him sound weak and incompetent.
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."

-Stephen Jay Gould
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#66
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I expect nothing from any fucking god and even less from dripshit.
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#67
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(December 14, 2016 at 11:07 pm)Tonus Wrote:
(December 14, 2016 at 9:28 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Except that is not what dripshit's precious gospels say.  In fact, Pilate's reaction seems best described by the phrase "who is this fucking guy?"

I think I mentioned it before, but you get the impression that the gospel writers were keen on making nice with the Roman authorities.  As unimpressed as Pilate is, he nonetheless stresses that he can't find anything that Jesus has done wrong, forcing the Jewish leaders to practically beg that the blame for his death fall on them.  He washes his hands --literally!-- of the whole affair and the crowd eagerly accepts this.  When Jesus dies it is the Roman soldiers who recognize that "he was the son of God."  One of Peter's keys to the kingdom of heaven is used to convert Cornelius, a Roman centurion whose prayer was answered directly by an angel of God.  You wonder if there wasn't at least some hope that their new religion would be more palatable to Rome, especially if they were written during (or just after) a time of Jewish revolt.

I wouldn't be surprised that all the stuff about Romans accepting Yeshua as son of yhwh comes from the period when jesusim was made the state religion of the Empire, some time in the 4th century. At the time the bibles were first written the imperial cult was riding high, so positing a being higher than even the imperator divi and hoping he'd be acceptable to Rome would be a foolish idea.
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#68
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Maybe he did write things, but it was rubbish so they had to make up other stuff.
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#69
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(December 16, 2016 at 12:12 pm)robvalue Wrote: Maybe he did write things, but it was rubbish so they had to make up other stuff.
Erotica maybe [emoji15]

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(December 16, 2016 at 12:12 pm)robvalue Wrote: Maybe he did write things, but it was rubbish so they had to make up other stuff.

well, we do have the Apostle Paul retconning what Matthew wrote . . . .


Jesus said it.

Matthew recorded it inerrantly in Holy Scripture

and fucking Paul changed it . . . .



Way to go Paul, invalidate the goddamn faith, Jesus fucking Christ, what kinda bullshit fake reward did Satan promise, you get to fuck Judas in the ass or something ?
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