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RE: Who's Who in Hell?
December 28, 2016 at 3:23 pm
(December 20, 2016 at 5:15 pm)PETE_ROSE Wrote: (December 20, 2016 at 4:56 pm)drfuzzy Wrote: I've known a lot of evangelical xtians who are quite convinced that EVERYONE who does not follow THEIR interpretation of the (King James version of the ) Bible is going to hell. Hell, apparently, is going to be a very busy place. And if heaven is full of THOSE folks . . . I'll pass.
An individuals opinon on who goes to heaven or hell is 100% irrelevant. What God says on the subject will hold weight when we breathe our last. His is the opinion I direct people to seek out.
Fine. When your imaginary friend starts talking to me . . . I'll either have proof of its existence, or I'll check myself into the mental hospital. (And if I don't have something I can touch, measure, question, and walk into a TV studio, it will be don't pass go, go directly to the loony bin.)
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RE: Who's Who in Hell?
December 28, 2016 at 6:13 pm
(This post was last modified: December 28, 2016 at 6:13 pm by Nay_Sayer.)
Seemingly everyone unless you pinky promise jesus that you are super duper sorry with sugar on top, Then you get a pass and get in the pearly gates.
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RE: Who's Who in Hell?
December 28, 2016 at 7:47 pm
If babies who die are automatically saved, what was the purpose of their lives according to Christianity?
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RE: Who's Who in Hell?
December 28, 2016 at 7:54 pm
um . .
original sin, I don't think they be Saved©
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RE: Who's Who in Hell?
December 28, 2016 at 8:36 pm
(December 27, 2016 at 6:06 pm)Lek Wrote: We're all saved through Christ. He said that those who seek him will find him. If a buddhist is sincerely seeking the true God, he will find him. He may never have heard the name Jesus, but he will know the Spirit of Christ and that Spirit will live in him. I can't imagine God sending anyone to hell when he hasn't given them the opportunity to read or listen to the bible. Of course, if a person has had the opportunity to know the bible and they deny Jesus, then I wouldn't think they would be saved.
So then, wouldn't telling people that would not otherwise 'know the bible", be an immoral act?
They would now have more of a chance for them to go to hell.
You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
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RE: Who's Who in Hell?
December 28, 2016 at 11:53 pm
If theyre not saved, why didnt they live longer?
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RE: Who's Who in Hell?
December 29, 2016 at 8:38 pm
God makes sure to call you back just after you've had that extra slice of cake.
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RE: Who's Who in Hell?
January 7, 2017 at 2:09 am
(December 28, 2016 at 8:36 pm)Simon Moon Wrote: (December 27, 2016 at 6:06 pm)Lek Wrote:
So then, wouldn't telling people that would not otherwise 'know the bible", be an immoral act?
They would now have more of a chance for them to go to hell.
No, we are instructed to tell everyone we can about Christ, this is biblical instruction. God will judge all who have not accepted Christ as their savior, those who have heard the word and rejected it will be judge guilty and suffer eternal punishment. Those who have not heard about Christ will be judged by their heart, that is, how they lived their lives according to their observations of the world around them. Knowing that there must have been a Creator and they live a life that tries to please Him. Is this all that is involved, I have no idea it is God's right as creator to decide.
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God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: Who's Who in Hell?
January 7, 2017 at 12:17 pm
I will outright say this Atheists have a better chance getting into heaven than gods own followers.
Atheists follow more to the compassionate side of jesus of the bible than "god(s)" supposed own followers do.
So yeah food for thought.
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RE: Who's Who in Hell?
January 7, 2017 at 1:23 pm
Jesus said he was the Jewish messiah, sent from the Jewish God to the Jewish people in fulfilment of Jewish Law, hopefully that disclaimer is mentioned early on during the preliminary interviews with the new recruits. Matthew also notes Jesus requires His followers to keep the Law better than the leaders of the Jews themselves if they want to enter the Kingdom of Heaven.
As long as proselytization is done honestly, it seems Jesus would have to approve.
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