Hilarious! Trump having problems finding artists.

[Thumpalumpacus]

When faced with the choice between appealing to semantics to rescue an argument and changing one's mind about the matter, the latter is the advisable course, in almost every case I can imagine.

[ErGingerbreadMandude]

The whole point of this, which you seem intent on obfuscating, is that the definition of penetration in the Texas penal code is completely relevant to this conversation and cannot be dismissed by you.

Texas don't even mention the word rape in their penal code, so I'm not sure how anyone can be convicted of rape, people will generally be convicted for sexual assault.

The links you have posted mostly define rape as forced penetration. I'm not going to look into all of the 50 state's specific laws word by word, the general definition is forced penetration, which a woman can't do unless she's using a foreign object which would then not qualify as rape.

[Thumpalumpacus]

The prosecution may not be filing the charge as "rape" due to the verbiage of the law, but the act of rape is most certainly prosecuted here in Texas.

I have to assume you're being willfully obtuse. There's no way you can be so unintelligent as to not see the point made.

Again, when your only defense is semantics, you're probably fighting for an indefensible premise.

[SteelCurtain]

The whole point of this, which you seem intent on obfuscating, is that the definition of penetration in the Texas penal code is completely relevant to this conversation and cannot be dismissed by you.

Texas don't even mention the word rape in their penal code, so I'm not sure how anyone can be convicted of rape, people will generally be convicted for sexual assault.

The links you have posted mostly define rape as forced penetration. I'm not going to look into all of the 50 state's specific laws word by word, the general definition is forced penetration, which a woman can't do unless she's using a foreign object which would then not qualify as rape.

Yep, now you're just trolling. Great job at having an adult conversation.

[ErGingerbreadMandude]

The prosecution may not be filing the charge as "rape" due to the verbiage of the law, but the act of rape is most certainly prosecuted here in Texas.

I have to assume you're being willfully obtuse. There's no way you can be so unintelligent as to not see the point made.

Again, when your only defense is semantics, you're probably fighting for an indefensible premise.

Getting convicted for rape is far more damaging that say for sexual assault. Just the allegation of a rape can ruin future career prospects, nobody wants to hire someone like that. You didn't read news about that football team that got falsely accused of rape, then had the rape claim proved false and then still had their lives ruined? Half the punishment is the label of a "rapist" itself. No idea why you're defending not naming a female rapist a rapist.

[Thumpalumpacus]

The prosecution may not be filing the charge as "rape" due to the verbiage of the law, but the act of rape is most certainly prosecuted here in Texas.

I have to assume you're being willfully obtuse. There's no way you can be so unintelligent as to not see the point made.

Again, when your only defense is semantics, you're probably fighting for an indefensible premise.

Getting convicted for rape is far more damaging that say for sexual assault. Just the allegation of a rape can ruin future career prospects, nobody wants to hire someone like that. You didn't read news about that football team that got falsely accused of rape, then had the rape claim proved false and then still had their lives ruined? Half the punishment is the label of a "rapist" itself. No idea why you're defending not naming a female rapist a rapist.

No, in Texas aggravated sexual assault is the same career-killer as rape elsewhere.

Why you think I'm defending anything is beyond me, because I'm not. I'm pointing out, as a citizen of Texas, that you're simply wrong. I'm also pointing out that your appeal to semantics is silly.

Bottom line: You're spouting off even though you don't have a clue what you're talking about, and are so wedded to your own views that you're unwilling to consider that you might be wrong.

Truly is it said, "Certainty is the surest impediment to learning."

[Tiberius]

When a woman rape someone she should get charged with rape. Period.

It should be noted that this type of behavior on the part of women is extremely rare.

Define "extremely rare", because according to a survey conducted by "Greenberg, Bruess and Haffner" (I can find numerous references to this survey but not the actual survey itself), 6.3% of rapists are female.

6.3% doesn't strike me as "extremely rare". Its basically 1 out of every 16 rapists.

[ErGingerbreadMandude]

I'm pretty sure it's way more than that. Just the reaction of the public is heartbreaking. People laugh at a man sharing his experience of abuse from a woman. Imagine that. There's actually a video about this on YouTube where a man shares how he was beaten by his girlfriend and locked inside a room and you could hear the whole audience laugh their ass off as if they were on a Jimmy Fallon show. It's truly heartbreaking.

A man that's been raped is looked at with disgust of how weak he must be. Many men doesn't even report these incidents out of fear of ridicule. When they share a rape incident with their friends their friends either congratulate him on getting raped or ridicule him by questioning his sexuality.

These kinds of things don't normally happen where I live, I could honestly not give a shit about some rando I'll probably never even meet in my life but once you read stories of these men that after getting raped actually got laughed at, its heartbreaking that you can't help but speak up for them.

It just seems outright impossible to even imagine a woman actually getting laughed at for getting raped or have her sexuality questioned. Men deserve the same compassion.

[Thumpalumpacus]

[Jehanne]

It should be noted that this type of behavior on the part of women is extremely rare.

Define "extremely rare", because according to a survey conducted by "Greenberg, Bruess and Haffner" (I can find numerous references to this survey but not the actual survey itself), 6.3% of rapists are female.

6.3% doesn't strike me as "extremely rare". Its basically 1 out of every 16 rapists.

Mark Twain quipped that, "There are lies, damned lies, and then there's statistics".

It's just one survey, and I really doubt that it is accurate.  I suppose that we can talk about forcible rape, but better yet, let the FBI answer the question for us; I am sure that there are statistics from the DoJ on this.