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How You Know This Shit Was Written By Men!
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(January 2, 2017 at 3:32 am)Huggy74 Wrote: Ah, but your definition of evolution and mine are two separate things.

Yeah, Thump's using the actual, scientific definition, and you're using your own weird subjective one that exists solely to prop up your pre-existing beliefs. I don't know why you think insisting on your definition to support the argument you're making is even close to a rational thing to do. Sorry, but "I've redefined a word such that it supports me now," does not make your underlying point correct. It's just sophistry.

Quote:So when I say we "devolved" know that I'm always referring to evolution from a biblical stand point, whether you agree with it or not...

So you're not making any real point, you're just babbling in your own private language, where all the definitions and premises are meticulously constructed so that you're right, and you don't feel any need to demonstrate the baseline claims you're making?
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(January 2, 2017 at 5:29 am)Huggy74 Wrote: But you haven't presented any "facts" have you? For starters show me one "fact" on how life began...

Ah, so you'd rather discuss the origins of life rather than evolution? Why didn't you say so in the first place?

Lordy, pick a topic and we'll chew it up, but don't ask to play dominoes and then start with hopscotch for your first play. You've gone from devolution to biblical kinds to abiogenesis in about 3.8 neurons, Hugs.

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(January 2, 2017 at 5:46 am)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:
(January 2, 2017 at 5:29 am)Huggy74 Wrote: But you haven't presented any "facts" have you? For starters show me one "fact" on how life began...

Ah, so you'd rather discuss the origins of life rather than evolution? Why didn't you say so in the first place?

Lordy, pick a topic and we'll chew it up, but don't ask to play dominoes and then start with hopscotch for your first play. You've gone from devolution to biblical kinds to abiogenesis in about 3.8 neurons, Hugs.
It's all related.

Our origins determine whether we evolve or de-evolve...

If abiogenesis is correct, then evolution in the sense that we evolved from a common ancestor is also correct.

If creationism is correct, then it is not possible for humans to become better than how God originally made them, the only way to go is in a negative direction, hence "devolve"...
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Negative. We were talking about how the inability to beat the snot out of each other for 124 rounds means we aren't the men we used to be, and now you're trying to shoehorn your god-thingy into this.

Surely such a majestic being as your objet de culte has better examples than this. You're trying to import origin into change, but it's slipshod thinking, and it will be pointed out.

Additionally, you write that it's our origins that determine whether we evolve or devolve, but this point of yours ignores the most basic point, which is relative motion. Our origins don't determine change; change determines change. Revolutionary idea, huh? Change is the distance between two points. If there has been no motion, there is no change, and that renders the origin irrelevant.

I know you can do better than this, bud. C'mon now.

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