Guys do you believe Howard Storm's NDE?

[Little Rik]

I knew that you would come up with that.  
Unfortunately you forgot one very important thing yog.
Those examples that you bring up and that I did show you in the past come after a trance state which
again come after a period of fast and meditation which is not what Storm went trough.
Not only that but Storm problem was caused by a diseases which was unavoidable while the self inflicted cuts in your and my examples were fully controlled by the trance states.

Fail again yog.  

Hahaha.    First off, you're all "it can't happen."  Now you're all "Ya but, ya but."  You're such a joke.

I'm not saying Howard Storm did it like the festival participants, only that such states are possible for the mind.  

And all you've got in exchange is a litany of excuses.

FOOL.      

Once again you divert from the issue in order to avoid the defeat.
The issue is all about Storm and what Storm went through not about states of trance cause by spiritual means.
Storm did not have a state of trance so why talking about that?
You reach the final stage yog.
All diversion that you used so far got you deeper and deeper into the hole.
The only way out is now to admit that you were wrong all the way.  
There is no point in keeping on banging your head on the wall.
Do the right thing yog.

[Angrboda]

[The Valkyrie]

Oh good Grud.

Is this STILL going??

[Little Rik]

Oh good Grud.

Is this STILL going??

What can you do Val.  
There are some people in here that think that they can knock down a 7000 year old philosophy by using
dogmatic jargon.  
It will not work mate.  

It never did work and it never will.  

[Little Rik]

No more rabbits in your magic hat?      

[Mister Agenda]

It's a Little Rik thread now. I'm out.

[Little Rik]

It's a Little Rik thread now. I'm out.

You will be missed son.          

Please don't go.           

This place will be dead without you.       

Now life will be tough.          

[Whateverist]

Oh good Grud.

Is this STILL going??

What can you do Val.  
There are some people in here that think that they can knock down a 7000 year old philosophy by using
dogmatic jargon.  
It will not work mate.  

It never did work and it never will.  

Bull shit.  You're doing it (my bolded) wrong.  Works fine for me.

Never thought of that, did you mate?

[Little Rik]

What can you do Val.  
There are some people in here that think that they can knock down a 7000 year old philosophy by using
dogmatic jargon.  
It will not work mate.  

It never did work and it never will.  

Bull shit.  You're doing it (my bolded) wrong.  Works fine for me.

Never thought of that, did you mate?

Mate.  

Gee, I never thought of that.  

Oh, by the way can you explain when and where anyone did knock down yoga philosophy.  

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Also Raymond say..........no the consciousness is not a product of the brain.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSQ6vcC6O-w

[Little Rik]

Gone Fishin comment about Raymond NDE...........Thanks Raymond!!     The answer to the charge of "hallucination" is:  Since when do hallucinations inspire the hallucinator to change their life for the better...sometimes MAJOR changes?---and to cause the person to be more loving and kind and go around helping others, inspiring others to not be afraid of death, to love all of creation more, to love self and others more intensely?             A person who has experienced an hallucination KNOWS shortly thereafter that it WAS an hallucination and they forget it, placing that experience in that part of the brain storage area that houses that bad dream you had a month ago, or where the memory of stumbling over that skateboard on the sidewalk, causing a sprained an ankle, is located.              IOW, an hallucination has virtually no impact on the rest of that person's life (unless, of course, that person was seriously injured in some way related to the hallucination).       The other point is this:  hallucinations originate in the BRAIN.  How is it possible to have an hallucination when there is no heartbeat and no brain activity and clinically dead for more than 5 minutes?     Usually the charge of "hallucination" is made by folks who don't WANT NDE's to be real...IMO.         IF the NDE IS a mere hallucination, I say, May god bless hallucinations!  The world NEEDS MORE of them!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSQ6vcC6O-w