Weekly list of Crimes Committed by Immigrants, to be published

[Pat Mustard]

We could start a "Fucking Immigrants!" thread? 



Seriously, however, this might be useful. Hard numbers to show the percentage of such events compared to the overall number of crimes. There are people who would refuse to even see the second number, of course, but that's true on any such comparison when emotions ... trump ... reality.

The second number isn't going to be published as it'd go against Trump's agenda of blaming all of Ameica's ills on the filthy brown heathen furriners.

[Edwardo Piet]

Well, let's hope some IRA splinter groups come to America to commit crimes and undermine the racist bullshit underlying the whole idea of publishing a weekly list of immigrant crimes.

Aye, and our friends across the pond will blow those fuckers away.

Um bombs are bad, m'kay. So don't encourage bombing. Because it's bad. Because bombs are bad. M'kay.

Nah but seriously... collateral damage and innocent lives (including many children)? I'd rather surrender.

[Rev. Rye]

It wasn't the US authorities that helped the IRA anyway, it was a bunch of taigs from Boston mainly. I was implying that our Protestant friends would deal with them.  

But... they're white. We still only kill brown people. This just doesn't compute.

And why not throw in the ETA while we're at it? I've always been fascinated by the Basque country and seeing them play a part in fucking with Trump's racist plans would just warm the cockles of my heart.

[RoadRunner79]

Which executive order is this? I tried to do a search, and didn't find criminals or anything about a weekly report.

I ask, because with this President, there appears to be a lot of distorted information flying around, and I find that if one checks up on the claims, that they do not pan out. Personally, I would like to see what the executive order actually say's (rather than "we all know what that means" and an editorialized report written for an agenda).

I'm all for discussing ideas and policy, but it's becoming difficult to tell what is actual, and that which is being over sensationalized, for a purpose. I think that eventually, I will just get to the point where I say "yeah the boy; is crying wolf again" and stop listening. Which is a bad thing

[The Grand Nudger]

From:
Executive Order: Enhancing Public Safety in the Interior of the United States
-Section 9, addendum b.

To better inform the public regarding the public safety threats associated with sanctuary jurisdictions, the Secretary shall utilize the Declined Detainer Outcome Report or its equivalent and, on a weekly basis, make public a comprehensive list of criminal actions committed by aliens and any jurisdiction that ignored or otherwise failed to honor any detainers with respect to such aliens.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-off...ior-united

No, it's not becoming difficult to "tell what is actual". Tell us more about how you fact check things, and how they don't pan out?

[RoadRunner79]

Nevermind... I found it
https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-off...ior-united

Section 9 paragraph B

From both the context and a legal standpoint, I think that the term "alien" is referring to non-citizens (whether here legally or illegally).  I am unsure what exactly "removable aliens" entails.

Overall, I don't have a problem with most of it.   From some of the research in the officer involved shootings threads, it seems that ethnicity is already recorded for crimes.   I don't see the harm in including citizenship with this data. 

The main part, that would cause me concern, is the part in section 5b  about crimes which are unresolved.  This could be an area for corruption, but I would wait to see how it is executed (especially concerning legal aliens). 

It does appear, that with this President, that things will be more transparent then some of the past.

[Mister Agenda]

How is publishing the statistics for aliens but not citizens transparent? Transparency would be to publish both so we can compare.

[abaris]

Transparency would be to publish both so we can compare.

The goal is to incite hatred and resentment. No transparency needed.

[RoadRunner79]

How is publishing the statistics for aliens but not citizens transparent? Transparency would be to publish both so we can compare.

Especially for big cities, it is my understanding that Crime statistics are public.  Even in my small town, they are in the newspaper.

Frankly, I don't expect much to come of this, other than perhaps some criminals being deported.   And I could certainly agree, that a weekly report seems like overkill.
I would think that the majority who are just here illegally, probably try to keep their heads down, and go unnoticed.

[abaris]

Especially for big cities, it is my understanding that Crime statistics are public.  Even in my small town, they are in the newspaper.

If category A is splashed over the headlines and category B needs research, most people only take note of catogory A. Mission accomplished.