RE: If "god" wants to talk to me... [new video]
February 9, 2017 at 3:31 pm
(This post was last modified: February 9, 2017 at 3:37 pm by MTL.)
(February 2, 2017 at 2:20 pm)Drich Wrote: So... If God wanted to talk to you you admit that He can.. but if He doesn't then He has to be senile or can't.
Here's a crazy thought.. What if it simply takes a measure of humility to identify what God may have already have told you. Or to put it another way.. What if God has already spoken with you? How would you be able to recognize him?
Let says if you have the ass hole attitude that God MUST speak with you or be senile or He cant do it.. Puts you in the wrong mind set.. Or rather puts you in the same mind set the Saducees and Pharisees were in when they encountered Christ..
Meaning when Jesus Rolls up and says I am the Christ, the Messiah. They can't believe Him. Why? because they expected something/someone so completely different they could not believe they in all of their wisdom could be so far off, in their belief and worship of God.
In other words those idiots were soo caught up in what they thought God and in turn the messiah should be they missed who He was.
My question to you is, how do you know God has not already spoken to you?
God spoke to me via a big scary black man/The last person on the planet that I would think to Hear directly from God From. How ever I was able to put down my expectations of how God was to approach me, and listened to the words Big Scary said. It was by His words (found in scripture) that validated the message, and was also later confirmed when specific predictions began to take place. Predictions I would have never heard if I first did not recognize my role my need to be humble enough in that situation to hear him out.
So again, Can God speak to you, yes. Is He going to do it on your terms? He might, but I can almost 100% say He won't. Why? Because we are all commanded to humble ourselves before HIM and HE will lift us up. Not demand God dance a gig and play to our sterotyps. If you learn to humble yourself before God as He instructed, then you might realize all the times God has been shouting at you, but you refuse to hear Him, because he did not approach you on your terms.
As usual with Drich, I don't know where to begin with such drivel.
The bible also talks about those who Ask, Seek, Knock.
You are so prepared to blame the human, in some way or another...for missing God, or failing to humble themselves enough, but,
A. You have no idea how sincerely people have searched or prostrated themselves before God.
It is mindless, brutally cruel, and indefensibly arrogant for you to state that the fault is theirs; that they simply failed to humble themselves enough or listen closely enough. I am so goddamned tired of hearing that answer, from a bunch of ignorant theists who have no fucking idea what they're talking about. You were not there, you were not present, you are not omniscient, you were not in those people's heads or hearts or lives..
.in short, you don't know shit, about what happened in someone else's life, so shut your mouth about things about which you have no knowledge. Your experience was not my experience, and everyone else's experiences carry just as much validity as your experiences do...maybe more, who knows.
And, Drich, not only might their experience and sincerity have outstripped your own, but I have reason to think it probably did, because you are the one presumptuous enough to preach at others about their inadequacy. If you had gone through what they'd gone through, you might not be so quick to condemn other people's inablity to find God. YOU would have more humility. Your slip is showing.
Mother Teresa herself mentioned how she prayed all her life into the void and never once heard anything back from that void. I was raised in a Baptist family and was taught repeatedly to listen for the "still, small voice" and reminded that God works in mysterious ways and that I don't know what God is thinking. I don't need to be reminded.
B. You also fail to acknowledge that humans are imperfect,
and are doing the best they can.
God however, is supposed to be divine and perfect, and He has no excuse for not doing better, IMO.
Also: God doesn't need the humans as much as the humans need him, does He?
He sits upon His throne in Heaven, perfect, self-sufficient and in need of nothing;
While on Earth, even amidst their admitted unworthiness and imperfections, it is also true that billions of truly desperate humans would LOVE to find God, could really use His presence in their lives, and sacrifice everything they can just to get a bone thrown their way....
....Yet you ascribe all the blame to those poor tortured wretches who would be ecstatic to hear from God,
for THEIR failure to hear from HIM.
That's like telling a heartbroken, insecure teenage girl that the insensitive jerk she's been dating hasn't called her because
she did something wrong, after she's done everything she can to make him happy, when the plain truth is that he is just a selfish insensitive jerk who didn't appreciate her and doesn't care who he hurts.
Moving on:
You say that we have to be prepared to accept God in whatever form He comes,
even if it is the last thing we want to see him as being.
I have been saying the same thing to Theists.
What if your "Scripture" has NOTHING to do with God?
What if God does indeed exist, but is more like an amoral, dispassionate scientist,
who doesn't care if people murder and rape each other?
Are
YOU prepared to accept God in whatever reality He might actually exist?
Quote:Can God speak to you, yes. Is He going to do it on your terms? He might, but I can almost 100% say He won't
No, no, you cannot. You cannot say anything about God would or would not do. You have no idea.
Talk about a lack of humility.
