If "god" wants to talk to me... [new video]

[Drich]

So... If God wanted to talk to you you admit that He can.. but if He doesn't then He has to be senile or can't.

Here's a crazy thought.. What if it simply takes a measure of humility to identify what God may have already have told you. Or to put it another way.. What if God has already spoken with you? How would you be able to recognize him?

Let says if you have the ass hole attitude that God MUST speak with you or be senile or He cant do it.. Puts you in the wrong mind set.. Or rather puts you in the same mind set the Saducees and Pharisees were in when they encountered Christ..

Meaning when Jesus Rolls up and says I am the Christ, the Messiah. They can't believe Him. Why? because they expected something/someone so completely different they could not believe they in all of their wisdom could be so far off, in their belief and worship of God.

In other words those idiots were soo caught up in what they thought God and in turn the messiah should be they missed who He was.

My question to you is, how do you know God has not already spoken to you?

God spoke to me via a big scary black man/The last person on the planet that I would think to Hear directly from God From. How ever I was able to put down my expectations of how God was to approach me, and listened to the words Big Scary said. It was by His words (found in scripture) that validated the message, and was also later confirmed when specific predictions began to take place. Predictions I would have never heard if I first did not recognize my role my need to be humble enough in that situation to hear him out.

So again, Can God speak to you, yes. Is He going to do it on your terms? He might, but I can almost 100% say He won't. Why? Because we are all commanded to humble ourselves before HIM and HE will lift us up. Not demand God dance a gig and play to our sterotyps. If you learn to humble yourself before God as He instructed, then you might realize all the times God has been shouting at you, but you refuse to hear Him, because he did not approach you on your terms.

As usual with Drich, I don't know where to begin with such drivel.

The bible also talks about those who Ask, Seek, Knock.

A/S/K is EXACTLY! What I mean when I say Humble yourself before God and allow Him to lift you up. So it very good you decided to go here.

You are so prepared to blame the human, in some way or another...for missing God, or failing to humble themselves enough, but,

Abso-friggen-lootly! There are 3 parts to A/S/K I can promise you that no one who has completed all three parts has failed to be given what God promised/See God.

A.  You have no idea how sincerely people have searched or prostrated themselves before God.

Here's apparently problem 'A.' with your version of 'A/S/K' You believe the "S" in A/S/K stands for sincerity. The problem? being sincere has nothing to do with what God is asking for here, nor what His ultimate answer is.

It is mindless, brutally cruel, and indefensibly arrogant for you to state that the fault is theirs; that they simply failed to humble themselves enough or listen closely enough. 

I've said none of those things. I simply said your "a" is not part of the equation. If it is not what the God of the bible wants or expects from you then why would he honor your effort, by giving you everything you want?

God here by telling us to A/S/K and providing the example of the man asking for bread late at night, was his way to show/teach you how to approach, and the lengths you must be willing to go. Why?

Let's say for some crazy reason you did not grow up in the 'one true and right christian church.' That your parents in their worship and your church's worship may be close but is not the perfect expression of Christianity it need be.. Therefore you have a squewd or corrupt vision or understanding of God.

Now let's say you did your little sincerity dance and God begins to answer you prayers... Now who do you worship/who do you thank? the God of the bible, or the God of your religion for those answered prayers?

Jesus tells a parable of the wise and foolish builders you familiar with it?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjoqMrFXx-k

The house we build is our faith. The surface we build on is either solid (true picture of God and what he says/means) or sand which I will narrow down to mean 'religion'/what we think of God. How we think things work with God.

Let's then say your 'sincere efforts/prayers' are heard So what does God do next? According to Christ He sends the wind and the rain to test what it is you have built. Can you understand so far? Sincerity buys you your first real trial, to test your faith. Only if you continue to Ask and Seek (because that is the definition of knocking) will you see your self clear of the wind and rain God sends.

Once the wind and rain clears you will note that not all your 'faith'/your house was taken away. What you have left will have been built on the rock. it is then your job to either relocate or dig down deep and find more rock to build on. Only after you 'build your house'/faith can you invite God over to dinner or even to stay.

I am so goddamned tired of hearing that answer, from a bunch of ignorant theists who have no fucking idea what they're talking about.

If you actually take time to read what I have to say you will note, I am not going down that path.

You were not there, you were not present, you are not omniscient, you were not in those people's heads or hearts or lives...in short, you don't know shit, about what happened in someone else's life, so shut your mouth about things about which you have no knowledge.  Your experience was not my experience, and everyone else's experiences carry just as much validity as your experiences do...maybe more, who knows.

but, i do know the system and I do know if you are not currently knocking as ASK SEEK KNOCK (Until you get what you are looking for) then you have not followed the instructions left in scripture. Which is absolutely critical if you intend to seek out the God of the bible. This may not be such a big deal to your specific flavor of the christian god, but then again you've already proven that, that version does not exist. However to meet the God of the bible it is critical, because he must first have you drop your version of God and have the humbleness of heart to accept that you've been wrong all this time. Then with seeking and reading the bible you will begin to build a picture very quickly of who God is, and it won't be very long then after will you see this picture in life.

And, Drich, not only might their experience and sincerity have outstripped your own, but I have reason to think it probably did, because you are the one presumptuous enough to preach at others about their inadequacy.  If you had gone through what they'd gone through, you might not be so quick to condemn other people's inablity to find God.  YOU would have more humility.  Your slip is showing.

I do know there are alot of people who have been made to endure alot harsher things than me. But again so what? being made to endure or being faced with hardship is not apart of the A/S/K path. It is not apart of the humility required to continue to knock even when you perceive silence. None of the things that you put great stock in have very little worth when it comes to the humility needed to keep knocking.

Again maybe that is why you failed, for you and your verion of the christian God suffering buys you favor, and so many others who think they can buy favor with God through hardship fail. One does not gain worthyness by hardship. Hardship is but a tool God can use to either harden your heart or soften it. Meaning it simply brings to the surface who it is you are deep down/inside. There are many who face hardship so that they may have their hearts hardened.

Mother Teresa herself mentioned how she prayed all her life into the void and never once heard anything back from that void.

 Maybe that's the problem, she was praying into the void. Maybe she never knew the God of the bible, but only the version of god who empowers they guy in the funny hat.

I was raised in a Baptist family and was taught repeatedly to listen for the "still, small voice" and reminded that God works in mysterious ways and that I don't know what God is thinking.  I don't need to be reminded.

Have you read any of my experiences? Everytime God wanted to get my attention it was not with a still small voice. It was usually with a big bat, until I learned to listen. I say that to say God will give you exactly what you need when you need it.

B.  You also fail to acknowledge that humans are imperfect, and are doing the best they can.
God however, is supposed to be divine and perfect, and He has no excuse for not doing better, IMO.

It's seems you don't understand the scale of perfection. Perfect is not about what you see as flawless but what God ultimatly decides to do. Perfection is not a standard in which God must strive to obtain, but a word describing what God does. No matter what you think He should do.

Also:  God doesn't need the humans as much as the humans need him, does He?
He sits upon His throne in Heaven, perfect, self-sufficient and in need of nothing;

Do you not understand the difference between need and want/desire?

While on Earth, even amidst their admitted unworthiness and imperfections, it is also true that billions of truly desperate humans would LOVE to find God, could really use His presence in their lives, and sacrifice everything they can just to get a bone thrown their way....

No they wouldn't. They want their version of what God is supposed to be, or they want a genie.
If billions wanted the God of the bible then they know by the bible his second comming will not be... pleasant. So then if those billions truly want God then they would be praying for "His Kingdom to come." Basically everything the book of revelation describes.

No they want a god they can tap to do the things they themselves can't get done by plotting and scheming.

....Yet you ascribe all the blame to those poor tortured wretches who would be ecstatic to hear from God,
for THEIR failure to hear from HIM.

meh..

That's like telling a heartbroken, insecure teenage girl that the insensitive jerk she's been dating hasn't called her because she did something wrong, after she's done everything she can to make him happy, when the plain truth is that he is just a selfish insensitive jerk who didn't appreciate her and doesn't care who he hurts.

Or telling her that jerk was not who she thought him to be and the reason she was with him had to do with what others thoughts were on the relationship and not about love or relationship itself.

That her 'relationship' was tested and it failed because it was not built on the right foundation.

Moving on:

You say that we have to be prepared to accept God in whatever form He comes,
even if it is the last thing we want to see him as being.

Like say the God from Revelation.

I have been saying the same thing to Theists.

What if your "Scripture" has NOTHING to do with God? 
What if God does indeed exist, but is more like an amoral, dispassionate scientist,
who doesn't care if people murder and rape each other?

Then nothing would matter. Even if I decided to live and worship God as i saw fit.

Are YOU prepared to accept God in whatever reality He might actually exist?

oh-noes... no one in 15 years has ever asked such a ground breaking question like that before how or what will I do? I know!!! Mock you, and say yes I am ready to spit in the eye of Muslim God or some ahole who has been leading me around falsely by the bible.

Now are you ready if the God of the bible is indeed the one you must answer to?

Can God speak to you, yes. Is He going to do it on your terms? He might, but I can almost 100% say He won't

No, no, you cannot.  You cannot say anything about God would or would not do.  You have no idea.

Actually I have a very good idea as it is all written down in a book called the bible. I've read and studied it for a long long time, and I can indeed speak for God where He has already spoken.

Here James said Humble yourself before God and HE will lift you up. Jesus modeled this in His life.

Talk about a lack of humility.

indeed.

[Harry Nevis]

So... If God wanted to talk to you you admit that He can.. but if He doesn't then He has to be senile or can't.

Here's a crazy thought.. What if it simply takes a measure of humility to identify what God may have already have told you. Or to put it another way.. What if God has already spoken with you? How would you be able to recognize him?

Let says if you have the ass hole attitude that God MUST speak with you or be senile or He cant do it.. Puts you in the wrong mind set.. Or rather puts you in the same mind set the Saducees and Pharisees were in when they encountered Christ..

Meaning when Jesus Rolls up and says I am the Christ, the Messiah. They can't believe Him. Why? because they expected something/someone so completely different they could not believe they in all of their wisdom could be so far off, in their belief and worship of God.

In other words those idiots were soo caught up in what they thought God and in turn the messiah should be they missed who He was.

My question to you is, how do you know God has not already spoken to you?

God spoke to me via a big scary black man/The last person on the planet that I would think to Hear directly from God From. How ever I was able to put down my expectations of how God was to approach me, and listened to the words Big Scary said. It was by His words (found in scripture) that validated the message, and was also later confirmed when specific predictions began to take place. Predictions I would have never heard if I first did not recognize my role my need to be humble enough in that situation to hear him out.

So again, Can God speak to you, yes. Is He going to do it on your terms? He might, but I can almost 100% say He won't. Why? Because we are all commanded to humble ourselves before HIM and HE will lift us up. Not demand God dance a gig and play to our sterotyps. If you learn to humble yourself before God as He instructed, then you might realize all the times God has been shouting at you, but you refuse to hear Him, because he did not approach you on your terms.

So believe without any evidence first, then you'll get evidence?  How can you force yourself to believe something?  Could you force yourself to believe that there is no god?  This kind of faith is baffling. And the bible says faith is a gift from god, but, being raised religious and fervently believing, I guess I killed my faith with too many facts.

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But if we're to believe that god did things like flood the entire earth killing almost everyone (very direct) why can't he use that same directness and simply speak clearly and audibly?

Those people had no idea God flooded the world, Noah preached to them for 100 years and they didn't hear what God was saying through Noah. So are you like those who drowned with their hearts closed if so why, I would think no one wants to drown when there is a Life Saver to reach out for..

GC

Noah preached to the entire world?  How did he get around?

[RetiredArmy]

You know, I'm finding something peculiar about the way I perceive theists now. It's been in the making, with both this site and real-life, with so many attempts to reason with theists. The times I've tried in real life have been met with the same hostility as is often seen here, even within my own family. My own abilities of arguing reason and belief (or lack there-of) are no comparison to some of those on this forum, yet the result seems approximately the same whether it is they or I making an argument. I think I'll start calling theists "brick-and-mortar," as arguing with them is like arguing with a brick wall.

I truly believe the resistance is due to three main factors:

1) So much of the average theist's life has been invested in belief. To find that has been a waste is, well, enough to make a person feel silly. Defensive mechanisms...
2) The fear of death is a nearly insurmountable fear. To acknowledge the facts is to acknowledge mortality with no hope of the everlasting. Defensive mechanisms...
3) Some people just have a built-in desire to argue and to win the argument at all costs, though they fail to see the loss they sustain (William Lane Craig?)

It's coming to the point where I don't even want to hear what they have to say, to read what they have written. It's going to be the same idiotic thing we've all argued against before, to no avail. The better we prove our point, the more angry the theist becomes.

The best I can hope to gain from this site in the future is insight on a myriad of topics from those without silly imaginary friends. After all, perspective and outlook can certainly differ from those who still hold on to adolescent fantasies. I'm looking forward to those socio-political discussions, but I'm leaving the theological debates alone from this point. If they wanna drink the cool-aid or jump off the cliff, I say let 'em.

[The Industrial Atheist]

But if we're to believe that god did things like flood the entire earth killing almost everyone (very direct) why can't he use that same directness and simply speak clearly and audibly?

Those people had no idea God flooded the world, Noah preached to them for 100 years and they didn't hear what God was saying through Noah. So are you like those who drowned with their hearts closed if so why, I would think no one wants to drown when there is a Life Saver to reach out for..

GC

What about the infants and children? Did they deserve to die because they didn't worship Yahweh? That's one of my problems with god. He punishes the innocent along with the guilty.

Even in the NT in the early church he strikes a married couple dead for saying they donated all of the proceeds from their sold house when it was only part of it.

I guess if you call lieing 'testing God's holy spirit' it's punishable by death.

I read Genesis 6:9-22 and it doesn't say anything about Noah preaching to the world about his murderous god.

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[MTL]

Drich,

I deliberately avoided this for days because I figured your reply would be exhaustive and yet redundant,
and you didn't disappoint.

Once again, Drich, you assume, and assume, and assume.

You assume that I expected or hoped God would fit a certain expectation.

This couldn't be further from the truth.

You basically accuse anyone who hasn't come to the same conclusions you've come to,
MUST simply be guilty of not humbling themselves enough.

But again, you weren't there.  You are not god. You were not privy to what I said to God.


Do you believe that GOD and TRUTH are basically synonymous....that GOD is the TRUTH behind all things?

It is, logically, IMPOSSIBLE to serve the pursuit of TRUTH
(and therefore, the pursuit of GOD, assuming they are, in fact, one and the same)
as long as you are prepared to accept the teachings of a book that tells you what to BELIEVE,
....and tells you to believe it, unquestioningly.

The pursuit of the TRUTH
is incompatible with BLIND ACCEPTANCE of the bible.

Therefore the god of the bible has nothing to do with truth.

While it is fine to have a hypothesis,
one CANNOT serve the pursuit of the TRUTH,
with any degree of integrity,
unless one is prepared to jettison any and all BELIEFS.

Because BELIEF is not the same thing as TRUTH;
in fact, they are often opposites.

God gave me a brain, and I can only assume that He holds me responsible for using it to the best of my ability.

Having faith that God exists, is one thing.

Blind acceptance of a closed-minded book as being the Word of God, is quite another.

It is not something a God who is synonymous with TRUTH would expect me to do.


It sounds to me like it is you who have decided that God can only be what you conclude He must be,
based on the book of your choice,
and you reject whatever form other people, just as earnest as you, may have found God to be,
based on a different book of choice;

and so convinced of this, are you, that you fail to see the double-standard you're presenting me with:

You accuse me of failing to accept God however He might be;
yet you then turn around and say He is only what you believe Him to be,
and if I don't find Him in that form, then it is I who am either misguided,
or who failed to humble herself.

Such convoluted reasoning.

I don't object to your having faith that God exists.

I don't even particularly object to your cherishing a certain belief structure about what God is or what God wants;
(even if I think you're kidding yourself)

but what I really object to is the arrogance with which you tell others what they are thinking
(IE: telling me I had expectations of God's parameters or wishes...which I did not)
and the arrogance with which you tell others that their failure to find what you profess to have found
is due to their own lack of humility
(which, again, you do not know, you were not privy to what I said to God during my leap of faith).

[Drich]

So believe without any evidence first, then you'll get evidence?

yes Christ asks for a mere mustard seed's worth of faith, which such an expenditure He said we would be able to move mountains of doubt.

  How can you force yourself to believe something?

 The same way anyone who steps on a plane for the first time and does not completely understand the fundamentals of flight. You see other people do it and get where they are going, so you hop on and see if the plane will take you where you are supposed to go.

Could you force yourself to believe that there is no god?

 Absolutely this message board is proof of that!!

This kind of faith is baffling. And the bible says faith is a gift from god, but, being raised religious and fervently believing, I guess I killed my faith with too many facts.

That's the thing though. we are not required blind faith forever. If your religion demands blind faith forever then it is empty of the Holy Spirit. If it is Jesus Christ centered you may still have salvation, but it will be out of sheer faith and blind trust in God. God commends those who can live like that.

I was not one of these people. even now after all He has done my foritude can wavier when heavily tested. Thankfully I have the Holy Spirit to instruct and guide me through these trials. Lower will be my reward in heaven but at least for now I have found great joy in not living in blind faith and substance-less belief.

[Harry Nevis]

So believe without any evidence first, then you'll get evidence?

yes Christ asks for a mere mustard seed's worth of faith, which such an expenditure He said we would be able to move mountains of doubt.

  How can you force yourself to believe something?

 The same way anyone who steps on a plane for the first time and does not completely understand the fundamentals of flight. You see other people do it and get where they are going, so you hop on and see if the plane will take you where you are supposed to go.

No, another bad analogy.  I KNOW the plane exists.  I KNOW the statistics of plane crashes.  I KNOW  enough about aerodynamics.

Could you force yourself to believe that there is no god?

 Absolutely this message board is proof of that!!

Really?! you can just decide to believe what you want?

This kind of faith is baffling. And the bible says faith is a gift from god, but, being raised religious and fervently believing, I guess I killed my faith with too many facts.

That's the thing though. we are not required blind faith forever. If your religion demands blind faith forever then it is empty of the Holy Spirit. If it is Jesus Christ centered you may still have salvation, but it will be out of sheer faith and blind trust in God. God commends those who can live like that.

You just said I needed blind faith to get evidence.

I was not one of these people. even now after all He has done my foritude can wavier when heavily tested. Thankfully I have the Holy Spirit to instruct and guide me through these trials. Lower will be my reward in heaven but at least for now I have found great joy in not living in blind faith and substance-less belief.

It's quite amazing what we can convince ourselves of.

[Drich]

yes Christ asks for a mere mustard seed's worth of faith, which such an expenditure He said we would be able to move mountains of doubt.

 The same way anyone who steps on a plane for the first time and does not completely understand the fundamentals of flight. You see other people do it and get where they are going, so you hop on and see if the plane will take you where you are supposed to go.

[quote='Harry Nevis' pid='1510940' dateline='1487272739']
No, another bad analogy. 

Do you see what you did there? or rather what you are about to do? You are going to change the parameter of the analogy and them deem it bad.

I KNOW the plane exists.

Again sport, it's not about the existence of airplanes Nor is it about you. it about the fundamentals of heavier than air flight.

  I KNOW the statistics of plane crashes.

My analogy references to 'anyone who meets the following qualifications: does not understand the fundamentals of flight, but sees and knows of people who have sucessfully flown, and from there faith proceeds understanding.

Do you get it yet smart guy? Through out modern soceity we have endless examples of people taking advantage of technology (most of which unseen) and even go so far as to place their life of said technology without a hint of understanding as to how it works or the principles the technology operates on. They simply do it because they know it will benfit them and they can hear the testimony of those who have also done the same and got what they wanted.

It's not a far flung process unless then of course you put God in place of some other unknown technology. Why? because it is ok to have faith in anything branded with the 'science' lable and it is not ok to expend the same minute level of faith to test God's word.

Yeah gotcha


 Absolutely this message board is proof of that!!

[color=#ff3333]Really?! you can just decide to believe what you want?

Yes moron.. Or do you not understand there are even competing scientific beliefs to darwins theory of evolution? So why believe in Darwinism? either you review the other and choose that one or you choose to simply lemming after the rest of the pack.

I chose not to follow the teaching of Buddhism from which I was born into, I chose not to follow the tenements of douchbaggery of atheism after high school, and I chose to follow Christianity, and I again chose not to follow Islam based on irreconcilable differences after much study.

Don't tell me you just float through life and simply believe whatever is in front of you.

You just said I needed blind faith to get evidence.

Just like stepping on an airplane with no knoweledge of how it works, you must have faith enough to simply Ask Seek and Knock as Christ outlined in luke 11. That's it. You have to have enough faith to simply ask and keep look for what it is you need to establish and maintain your faith.

I was not one of these people.

Don't be obtuse. we all are. Pride simply will not allow you to place the same faith you place in everything else you do not understand in your life, in God. That's all it is sport. You already expend more faith in a modern car's gas pedal and steering wheel, or the fact that you eat food you did not grow or kill yourself is 10x more than what it is needed in the mustard seed's worth of faith God expects for all of us.

It's quite amazing what we can convince ourselves of.

Indeed some, without any knowledge of God what so ever can definitively say God does not exist. Why? because God will not play their game their way.

What is even more amazing is when the flood gates open and you are placed in a position to receive what God has promised. To be place in a position where everything is out of your control and just one miraculous thing happens after another and another.

[Harry Nevis]

yes Christ asks for a mere mustard seed's worth of faith, which such an expenditure He said we would be able to move mountains of doubt.

 The same way anyone who steps on a plane for the first time and does not completely understand the fundamentals of flight. You see other people do it and get where they are going, so you hop on and see if the plane will take you where you are supposed to go.

No, another bad analogy. 

Do you see what you did there? or rather what you are about to do? You are going to change the parameter of the analogy and them deem it bad.

I KNOW the plane exists.

Again sport, it's not about the existence of airplanes Nor is it about you. it about the fundamentals of heavier than air flight.

  I KNOW the statistics of plane crashes.

My analogy references to 'anyone who meets the following qualifications: does not understand the fundamentals of flight, but sees and knows of people who have sucessfully flown, and from there faith proceeds understanding.

Do you get it yet smart guy? Through out modern soceity we have endless examples of people taking advantage of technology (most of which unseen) and even go so far as to place their life of said technology without a hint of understanding as to how it works or the principles the technology operates on. They simply do it because they know it will benfit them and they can hear the testimony of those who have also done the same and got what they wanted.

It's not a far flung process unless then of course you put God in place of some other unknown technology. Why? because it is ok to have faith in anything branded with the 'science' lable and it is not ok to expend the same minute level of faith to test God's word.

Yeah gotcha


Because it's not the same faith.  We know the technology exists.  We can find facts about it.  We can research why it works.  Whether people do this or not has no effect on whether it exists or not.  The technology exists and we have evidence of it.  Not with your god.

Really?! you can just decide to believe what you want?

Yes moron.. Or do you not understand there are even competing scientific beliefs to darwins theory of evolution? So why believe in Darwinism? either you review the other and choose that one or you choose to simply lemming after the rest of the pack.

I chose not to follow the teaching of Buddhism from which I was born into, I chose not to follow the tenements of douchbaggery of atheism after high school, and I chose to follow Christianity, and I again chose not to follow Islam based on irreconcilable differences after much study.

Don't tell me you just float through life and simply believe whatever is in front of you.

I accept based on evidence, asshole.  I could no more decide to believe in the reality of god than I could decide to believe in the reality of Harry Potter.

You just said I needed blind faith to get evidence.

Just like stepping on an airplane with no knoweledge of how it works, you must have faith enough to simply Ask Seek and Knock as Christ outlined in luke 11. That's it. You have to have enough faith to simply ask and keep look for what it is you need to establish and maintain your faith.

Again, totally different kind of faith.

I was not one of these people.

Don't be obtuse. we all are. Pride simply will not allow you to place the same faith you place in everything else you do not understand in your life, in God. That's all it is sport. You already expend more faith in a modern car's gas pedal and steering wheel, or the fact that you eat food you did not grow or kill yourself is 10x more than what it is needed in the mustard seed's worth of faith God expects for all of us.

Fuck off.  Your the only one I see full of pride in this conversation.  You have all the answers, whether they make sense or not.  You see educated choices as no different that emotional guesses and wishes.

It's quite amazing what we can convince ourselves of.

Indeed some, without any knowledge of God what so ever can definitively say God does not exist. Why? because God will not play their game their way.

What is even more amazing is when the flood gates open and you are placed in a position to receive what God has promised. To be place in a position where everything is out of your control and just one miraculous thing happens after another and another.

Who says god definitely doesn't exist?  Not me.  I'll be the first to accept your god when presented with enough objective evidence.  But there is nothing. Take the bible away as evidence of god and you got nothing. No birth, no resurrection, no crucifixion. But there is nothing that would make you not believe, is there? Oh, I forgot.  You can just decide you don't believe. You don't need to have any reason except you want to.

Apparently, you have your own definition for "miracle" as well as "faith".  But there is no evidence of these miracles, is there?

[The Grand Nudger]

Prepare to be amused.  God cured drich of aids, among other miraculous feats of intervention.  To channel SCROTUS...evidence? He is the evidence!