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"There is a god because e = mc²"
#21
RE: "There is a god because e = mc²"
Ooh! I like this game!

There is no God because my testicles are regularly emptied.

This game is fun! Big Grin
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#22
RE: "There is a god because e = mc²"
(February 16, 2017 at 6:37 pm)MTL Wrote: But I recall someone of my acquaintance, who is both very scientific but also a theist,
observing that the second law of thermodynamics dictates something to the effect that
entropy succeeds over time; everything winds down, like a clock, including the Universe

...and that raises the interesting question about who wound the clock up, in the first place...

But I'm way out of my depth with it, sadly.

Well, why a who and not a what? If you have a who, then where did this person come from? That is an infinite regression.

Also, that's an argument for deism, not a particular religion, though you didn't state your acquaintance's affiliation to be sure.
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#23
RE: "There is a god because e = mc²"
(February 16, 2017 at 6:46 pm)bheath Wrote:
(February 16, 2017 at 6:37 pm)MTL Wrote: But I recall someone of my acquaintance, who is both very scientific but also a theist,
observing that the second law of thermodynamics dictates something to the effect that
entropy succeeds over time; everything winds down, like a clock, including the Universe

...and that raises the interesting question about who wound the clock up, in the first place...

But I'm way out of my depth with it, sadly.

Well, why a who and not a what? If you have a who, then where did this person come from? That is an infinite regression.

Also, that's an argument for deism, not a particular religion, though you didn't state your acquaintance's affiliation to be sure.

The individual was a neighbor of a friend, and as to his affiliation....do you refer to religious affiliation?  I think he was Presbyterian.  Is that what you were asking me?  Why is this relevant, again?

(February 16, 2017 at 6:30 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote:
(February 16, 2017 at 6:26 pm)Stimbo Wrote: Though who would want to masturbate with a squared cucumber...

Vorlie?

damn, you beat me to the answer.
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#24
RE: "There is a god because e = mc²"
(February 16, 2017 at 6:44 pm)Alasdair Ham Wrote: Ooh! I like this game!

There is no God because my testicles are regularly emptied.

This game is fun! Big Grin

That's a phallacy! (spell check).
First you need to prove that having a full nutbag proves God!
No God, No fear.
Know God, Know fear.
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#25
RE: "There is a god because e = mc²"
**coughGCcough**

Oh, sorry - I thought you said being a full nutbag.


At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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#26
RE: "There is a god because e = mc²"
(February 16, 2017 at 7:35 pm)MTL Wrote:
(February 16, 2017 at 6:46 pm)bheath Wrote: Also, that's an argument for deism, not a particular religion, though you didn't state your acquaintance's affiliation to be sure.

The individual was a neighbor of a friend, and as to his affiliation....do you refer to religious affiliation?  I think he was Presbyterian.  Is that what you were asking me?  Why is this relevant, again?

Oh, no, it isn't relevant. I was just acknowledging that it isn't, while making the point that his argument about thermodynamics and entropy is an argument for deism and not a particular religion.

In my friend's case, he knocks on people's doors on Saturday mornings to tell them about "the good news". How he gets from e=mc² to that, I have no idea.
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#27
RE: "There is a god because e = mc²"
So basically God =true because maths?

What about because sky=blue? Or because Piccadilly circus on monopoly board =yellow!

pretty sad if they need to resort to this to prove anything, let alone the creator of the universe...
No God, No fear.
Know God, Know fear.
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#28
RE: "There is a god because e = mc²"
There is a god, because Chewbacca's a wookie.

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#29
RE: "There is a god because e = mc²"
(February 16, 2017 at 6:30 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote:
(February 16, 2017 at 6:26 pm)Stimbo Wrote: Though who would want to masturbate with a squared cucumber...

Vorlie?

Nah. Even Vorlon has some standards.

Trapezoided cucumber? Yes he definitely would. Most definitely.
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#30
RE: "There is a god because e = mc²"
I hadn't heard of this, so I did do a search. It seemed to talk about the vast amount of energy, that is stored within all the matter of the universe. I don't know that this would be a very strong arguement for God, However I do think a case could be made against some cosmological notions, especially as you magnify the power backwards through what is proposed. I have made a similar case, discussing time and matter without beginning.
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