What would change your mind?

[Minimalist]

All it would take for me to believe is a set of Baltimore Oriole's tickets showing up at my house for me. That would do it.

So the guy at Stubhub is your god?


I recalled answering this same question some time ago.  Fortunately I had enough oddball words in it to make a search easy.  Here's the thread.

http://atheistforums.org/thread-28668-po...#pid752627

[Atheist Rambo]

To change my mind God would have to actually reveal him self globally, but so far that clearly hasn't happened.

For now I think I'll continue my days of making fun of religion, you can respect it or not, doesn't really matter to me.

[The Valkyrie]

Oh, addition to my previous answer.

Possibly a lobotomy.

[Jenny A]

I hope this is the right place to post this and I wonder if the subject has been broached before.  What could God do to prove his existence?  Everyone runs around saying, I can't see him, so sorry.  If you asked a christian, they'd say the bible proves his existence.  Forget that.  What sort of things would he have to do to prove it.  Show his face from the heavens?  Flood the earth?  End all suffering?  What could make you change your mind?

It's been said, but bears repeating: reliable evidence demonstrating the likelihood of god would change my mind. Floods are natural and not evidence of god one way or the other. A face in the heavens would require investigation as to source.

[Aristocatt]

Since I was once an atheist I will say that looking for evidence in nature will never suffice. The evidence for God is about nature not within it.

This is somewhat similar to the response I would give.

In all honesty, there isn't much that would ever make me believe in god...at least it wouldn't happen because some being came riding down from the skies in golden chariots.


The issue I have with believing in god, or making any kind of assertions about the metaphysical, is that it is precisely that.  Metaphysical.  My epistemological framework is ultimately empirical.  Everything that I can know/believe/assert/etc, is possible, in part, because of my observations.  However my observations all take place within the physical world, so I can't ever have evidence for anything metaphysical.

What would it take for me to believe in god?  A tremendous unraveling of how I perceive the world.  I would have to at the very least be capable of believing that knowledge does not require observation.

[Joods]

Wrong.

For me, I've already put it to rest. There is no god or gods. None of them ever took me up on my invitation to lunch. So, there's that.

That is silly Nympha.
Why God would take up your invitation to lunch considering that you still do not follow logic?
How can you expect that the universe pop up as per magic and nobody run it?

I do follow logic, which is one of the reasons I can see, with clarity, that he doesn't exist in the first place. He should want me to know him personally, right? What better way to convince a non-believer than with the man himself. Instead of using messengers or some other means, just have him present himself, on demand, to my designated location and let me see that he's the real deal. People have been kept waiting for 2000+ years.

Quit teasing us already and present yourself!!

Ooooooh that's right. He can't because he's imaginary.

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All it would take for me to believe is a set of Baltimore Oriole's tickets showing up at my house for me. That would do it.

So, if I bought some and sent them to you, you'd worship me?

Uhhh anyone who saw your Facebook pics should already be worshipping you.

[KUSA]

So the guy at Stubhub is your god?

Not really. There is a fellow on another forum that used to be an Atheist until he mysteriously received the tickets. Now he is a believer.

I recalled answering this same question some time ago.  Fortunately I had enough oddball words in it to make a search easy.  Here's the thread.

http://atheistforums.org/thread-28668-po...#pid752627

That's pretty convincing.

[Little Rik]

That is silly Nympha.
Why God would take up your invitation to lunch considering that you still do not follow logic?
How can you expect that the universe pop up as per magic and nobody run it?
Give time and when you will start following logic and your mind will be open to all possibility then God will take up your invitation.  




In a way it is understandable that many people do not believe in God because of religions.
Religions have done so much damage with all their dogmas and invented so called truth that
too many people are put off but if their would look a bit further over their mind then they would understand that God and religions have very little in common.  

There is NO logic in the concept of a being that is supposedly beyond all levels of human understanding but displays all the worst traits of humanity: cruelty, jealousy, pettiness, vanity, etc.

Have you ever seen God that..........displays all the worst traits of humanity: cruelty, jealousy, pettiness, vanity, etc............

Have you got any evidence to back up your case?  

[purplepurpose]

I feel like there is no problem with the idea of God who demands morality. The problem I have and as it seems almost everyone else has is that God described in most popular "holy" books might use the most extreme and unimaginable method of motivating his creation to follow his moral laws by potential punishment in afterlife trough torture, regenerate like wolverine from X-men, repeat the process. Its the most f up idea there is because if you take it seriously, you potentially might get unimaginable nightmare no words can describe, which ideally should motivate you swallow the bitter pill of religious lifestyle.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

Oh, addition to my previous answer.

Possibly a lobotomy.

'I'd rather have a free bottle in front of me than a prefrontal lobotomy.' - Tom Waits

Boru