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Do you find Blind Patriotism scary

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Do you find Blind Patriotism scary
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RE: Do you find Blind Patriotism scary
March 11, 2017 at 4:47 pm
(March 11, 2017 at 4:33 pm)KUSA Wrote: I love my country, I don't love my government.

But to love your country it takes making a stand against the ones raping it.
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Do you find Blind Patriotism scary
March 11, 2017 at 4:55 pm
(March 11, 2017 at 4:47 pm)abaris Wrote:
(March 11, 2017 at 4:33 pm)KUSA Wrote: I love my country, I don't love my government.

But to love your country it takes making a stand against the ones raping it.

I won't disagree with that.
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RE: Do you find Blind Patriotism scary
March 12, 2017 at 2:10 pm
Real patriotism involves being able to see things that need to be changed.

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RE: Do you find Blind Patriotism scary
March 12, 2017 at 2:26 pm
(March 12, 2017 at 2:10 pm)Industrial Lad Wrote: Real patriotism involves being able to see things that need to be changed.

... and having the courage to stand up for that change even against the tides of sentiment ...

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RE: Do you find Blind Patriotism scary
March 12, 2017 at 2:57 pm (This post was last modified: March 12, 2017 at 2:57 pm by Alex K.)
Case in point - renaming french fries freedom fries because your friends tell you that the Iraq war is a terrible idea: not real patriotism.
The fool hath said in his heart, There is a God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
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RE: Do you find Blind Patriotism scary
March 12, 2017 at 8:08 pm
(March 12, 2017 at 2:26 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:
(March 12, 2017 at 2:10 pm)Industrial Lad Wrote: Real patriotism involves being able to see things that need to be changed.

... and having the courage to stand up for that change even against the tides of sentiment ...
I don't see what I can do to change the direction my country is going in other than to continue to vote democrat or independent. Not that many here hold me in too high regard. I'm not about to try to convince the people from the Church I used to go to how bad Trump and the Republicans are.
In truth they may not care as long as he panders every so often.

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RE: Do you find Blind Patriotism scary
March 13, 2017 at 3:29 pm
(March 10, 2017 at 4:56 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Unreasoning devotion to anything worries me.

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This, precisely.

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"You did WHAT?  With WHO?  WHERE???"
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RE: Do you find Blind Patriotism scary
March 13, 2017 at 5:55 pm
(March 10, 2017 at 4:56 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Unreasoning devotion to anything worries me.

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Except Metallic and AC/DC, of course.  Tongue
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RE: Do you find Blind Patriotism scary
March 13, 2017 at 6:14 pm
Ah, this thread reminds me of how, in the early-mid 2000's, conservatives would call anyone that criticized the wars or Bush a traitor.

Good times.
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RE: Do you find Blind Patriotism scary
March 13, 2017 at 6:18 pm
(March 13, 2017 at 6:14 pm)Faith No More Wrote: Ah, this thread reminds me of how, in the early-mid 2000's, conservatives would call anyone that criticized the wars or Bush a traitor.

Good times.

Which always begs for what Hermann Goering said to Gustave Gilbert at Nuremberg:

Quote:Naturally, the common people don't want war; neither in Russia nor in England nor in America, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy or a fascist dictatorship or a Parliament or a Communist dictatorship.[…] That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country.
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