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RE: Is the generally accepted version of history a faith based religion?
March 15, 2017 at 12:47 am
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(March 15, 2017 at 12:42 am)Thena323 Wrote: (March 15, 2017 at 12:37 am)trustyoursources Wrote: I dont understant?
Wow, but you're quick!
You posted a link, but it's to a Youtube video, which I believe is permitted as a new member.
My apologies, Sir or Madam. I edited my post a few minutes ago.
Haha thank you for the welcome I am a documentary film maker just sharing my craft. If this is not permitted I will not do that anymore. Since this is an atheist forum I just though alternative history would be an interesting subject matter to engage in within the skeptic community.
(March 15, 2017 at 12:46 am)Fireball Wrote: (March 15, 2017 at 12:37 am)Jesster Wrote: And I'm here if you want to share some jokes. You started, so I can go next.
Why did Princess Diana cross the road?
She wasn't wearing a seat belt.
OH, fuck, that was wicked, Jess.
To address the OP, historians sort through the available evidence and try to figure out what is PROBABLY true, but they aren't 100% convinced. If you have some sort of grind with "accepted" history, you're going to have a tough go of it here (or anywhere- can you provide a CV of how many fora you've been evicted from for posting this sort of material? 
I understand that its not a popular view but it is an appropriate one to discuss within the skeptical community I believe and it happens to be a view I am deeply interested in.
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RE: Is the generally accepted version of history a faith based religion?
March 15, 2017 at 1:04 am
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(March 15, 2017 at 12:47 am)trustyoursources Wrote: Haha thank you for the welcome I am a documentary film maker just sharing my craft. If this is not permitted I will not do that anymore. Since this is an atheist forum I just though alternative history would be an interesting subject matter to engage in within the skeptic community.
As I said before, I'm fairly certain that relevant Youtube videos are the exception to the rule that discourages the posting of links in the first 30 days as a new member.
Don't take my word on it, though. 
Best to check the rules, if you're unclear.
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RE: Is the generally accepted version of history a faith based religion?
March 15, 2017 at 1:06 am
(March 15, 2017 at 1:04 am)Thena323 Wrote: (March 15, 2017 at 12:47 am)trustyoursources Wrote: Haha thank you for the welcome I am a documentary film maker just sharing my craft. If this is not permitted I will not do that anymore. Since this is an atheist forum I just though alternative history would be an interesting subject matter to engage in within the skeptic community.
As I said before, I'm fairly certain that relevant Youtube videos are the exception to the rule that discourages the posting of links in the first 30 days as a new member.
Don't take my word on it, though.
Best to check the rules, if you're unclear.
Good idea I do not want to rock the boat I am just a guest here.
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RE: Is the generally accepted version of history a faith based religion?
March 15, 2017 at 1:21 am
(March 15, 2017 at 1:06 am)trustyoursources Wrote: (March 15, 2017 at 1:04 am)Thena323 Wrote: As I said before, I'm fairly certain that relevant Youtube videos are the exception to the rule that discourages the posting of links in the first 30 days as a new member.
Don't take my word on it, though.
Best to check the rules, if you're unclear.
Good idea I do not want to rock the boat I am just a guest here.
We're ALL guests here. But one of the things you have probably experienced in your life is that hosts invite guests to a party to watch the sparks fly between known enemies. Not that you are an enemy per se of anyone at this point. But don't expect to have your views go unchallenged. And not to put too fine a point on it, while you were free to join, it isn't technically an invitation. I hope I'm not stepping on management's crank by saying that.
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RE: Is the generally accepted version of history a faith based religion?
March 15, 2017 at 1:23 am
(March 15, 2017 at 1:21 am)Fireball Wrote: (March 15, 2017 at 1:06 am)trustyoursources Wrote: Good idea I do not want to rock the boat I am just a guest here.
We're ALL guests here. But one of the things you have probably experienced in your life is that hosts invite guests to a party to watch the sparks fly between known enemies. Not that you are an enemy per se of anyone at this point. But don't expect to have your views go unchallenged. And not to put too fine a point on it, while you were free to join, it isn't technically an invitation. I hope I'm not stepping on management's crank by saying that.
I relish the opportunity for discussion and debate thats why I am here.
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RE: Is the generally accepted version of history a faith based religion?
March 15, 2017 at 2:46 am
Generally accepted history has many flaws, but there is usually some evidence for it. It can be refuted, changed or updated if challenged, it isn't fixed dogma.
There is absolutely nothing religious about history.
Does it fit the definition of "faith based"? No.
Does it fit the definition of "Religion"? No.
Easy, the answer is no.
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RE: Is the generally accepted version of history a faith based religion?
March 15, 2017 at 3:11 am
History is not faith-based, to the working historian.
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RE: Is the generally accepted version of history a faith based religion?
March 15, 2017 at 3:19 am
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(March 15, 2017 at 2:46 am)Aroura Wrote: Generally accepted history has many flaws, but there is usually some evidence for it. It can be refuted, changed or updated if challenged, it isn't fixed dogma.
There is absolutely nothing religious about history.
Does it fit the definition of "faith based"? No.
Does it fit the definition of "Religion"? No.
Easy, the answer is no.
I disagree we have no way to witness anything other then my own experiances its our faith in "historians" and "experts" and "text books" ask clergy and religious text of government approved story on who we are and what we came from... so yeah religion, a godless socialist religion.
(March 15, 2017 at 3:11 am)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: History is not faith-based, to the working historian.
Yeah because to make it so far as to be recognized as a "historian" by the main stream our nations liberal universities made sure he stays in lock step and doesnt get to far off the official story. You gather to listen to your history teachers aka clergy and read you history books and articles aka religious text and worship your favorite historic characters aka idols. History is a scam.
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RE: Is the generally accepted version of history a faith based religion?
March 15, 2017 at 4:07 am
(March 15, 2017 at 3:19 am)trustyoursources Wrote: (March 15, 2017 at 3:11 am)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: History is not faith-based, to the working historian.
Yeah because to make it so far as to be recognized as a "historian" by the main stream our nations liberal universities made sure he stays in lock step and doesnt get to far off the official story. You gather to listen to your history teachers aka clergy and read you history books and articles aka religious text and worship your favorite historic characters aka idols.
Right. So. We've confirmed that you know nothing about how historical research is conducted or how one studies the field. Good. Wonderful.
Can we end the thread now?
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RE: Is the generally accepted version of history a faith based religion?
March 15, 2017 at 4:46 am
Oh goody we have gone from Christian creationists to Atheist conspiracy nuts
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