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Is the generally accepted version of history a faith based religion?
#31
RE: Is the generally accepted version of history a faith based religion?
(March 15, 2017 at 4:46 am)Orochi Wrote: Oh goody we have gone from Christian creationists to Atheist conspiracy nuts

Surprise! The conspiracy nut is also a Christian (or so it says in their profile).
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#32
RE: Is the generally accepted version of history a faith based religion?
(March 15, 2017 at 3:19 am)trustyoursources Wrote:
(March 15, 2017 at 2:46 am)Aroura Wrote: Generally accepted history has many flaws, but there is usually some evidence for it.  It can be refuted, changed or updated if challenged, it isn't fixed dogma.  
There is absolutely nothing religious about history.

Does it fit the definition of "faith based"?  No.  
Does it fit the definition of "Religion"?  No.

Easy, the answer is no.

I disagree we have no way to witness anything other then my own experiances its our faith in "historians" and "experts" and "text books" ask clergy and religious text of government approved story on who we are and what we came from... so yeah religion, a godless socialist religion.

(March 15, 2017 at 3:11 am)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: History is not faith-based, to the working historian.

Yeah because to make it so far as to be recognized as a "historian" by the main stream our nations liberal universities made sure he stays in lock step and doesnt get to far off the official story. You gather to listen to your history teachers aka clergy and read you history books and articles aka religious text and worship your favorite historic characters aka idols. History is a scam.

A hypothesis that cannot be falsified is essentially a bald claim bereft of support. Especially when one can conduct one's own research into historical events, and especially when one considers the multiplicity of views espoused by historians on a wide variety of events. At that point, it is not faith; it is evidence and reasoned argumentation.

And finally, even if your claim about history were true, what is it that would exempt your own view of it from the claim you yourself lay?

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#33
RE: Is the generally accepted version of history a faith based religion?
(March 15, 2017 at 12:37 am)Jesster Wrote:
(March 15, 2017 at 12:35 am)trustyoursources Wrote: Fair enough. Im here if you change your mind.

And I'm here if you want to share some jokes. You started, so I can go next.

Why did Princess Diana cross the road?

She wasn't wearing a seat belt.

Big Grin

What was the last thing that went through Princess Diana's mind?

The windscreen.

Boru
‘But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods or no gods. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.’ - Thomas Jefferson
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#34
RE: Is the generally accepted version of history a faith based religion?
(March 14, 2017 at 9:56 pm)trustyoursources Wrote: It is very hard to almost impossible to predict what happened long ago in the past

That's... not how predictions work.

For a given value of 'work', obviously.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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#35
RE: Is the generally accepted version of history a faith based religion?
(March 15, 2017 at 12:20 am)Godschild Wrote: As Barney would say, "he's a nut."

GC

He's not a nut. He's an alternative intellectual.

Or nut.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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#36
RE: Is the generally accepted version of history a faith based religion?
(March 15, 2017 at 12:37 am)trustyoursources Wrote: I dont understant?

Probably the most accurate thing you've said to date.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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#37
RE: Is the generally accepted version of history a faith based religion?
(March 15, 2017 at 3:19 am)trustyoursources Wrote: Yeah because to make it so far as to be recognized as a "historian" by the main stream our nations liberal universities made sure he stays in lock step and doesnt get to far off the official story. You gather to listen to your history teachers aka clergy and read you history books and articles aka religious text and worship your favorite historic characters aka idols. History is a scam.

Says the guy that admits to creating his own facts.

Dude, when even GC can recognize right away that you're bonkers, you've gone way off the deep end.
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
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#38
RE: Is the generally accepted version of history a faith based religion?
(March 15, 2017 at 5:42 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(March 15, 2017 at 12:37 am)Jesster Wrote: And I'm here if you want to share some jokes. You started, so I can go next.

Why did Princess Diana cross the road?

She wasn't wearing a seat belt.

Big Grin

What was the last thing that went through Princess Diana's mind?

The windscreen.

Boru

I've heard that, but with a radiator, not a windscreen...

What was the sound of the ambulance that went to their rescue?

Dodi-Di, Dodi-Die, Dodi-Di...
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#39
RE: Is the generally accepted version of history a faith based religion?
(March 14, 2017 at 10:14 pm)Minimalist Wrote: I made it about 4 minutes and change before deciding you are a Poe.

Lenin died in 1924.  He was not sitting in Moscow in 1941 waiting for communications from besieged Leningrad!  He most assuredly was not expecting them from Trotsky who Stalin had murdered in Mexico in 1940 and who was thus NOT in command of Soviet Forces in the Leningrad area.  That was Lt. Gen. Popov.

Remember what I said about facts.

What about Kennedy being the President during WWII or the V2 rocket being a space program?!

Fuck, I laughed. Then I switched off.
Sum ergo sum
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#40
RE: Is the generally accepted version of history a faith based religion?
(March 15, 2017 at 9:44 am)Ben Davis Wrote: What about Kennedy being the President during WWII or the V2 rocket being a space program?!

Fuck, I laughed. Then I switched off.

You didn't get to the part where Walt Disney offered Hitler a trip to Disneyland and Hitler(the most wanted man on the planet) was thrilled to take a little vacation from the war?
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
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