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RE: Evolution Questions
March 23, 2017 at 12:24 am
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I believe in all legitimate science (for evolution, I believe God was the architect), but I don't believe in alien life. Me not believing in any extraterrestrial life at all is due to my religious beliefs, but in not believing we will ever make contact with aliens, that's just based on simple science. I wish I could find the people funding SETI and slap the crap out of them for wasting money on that when they can be feeding the hungry.
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RE: Evolution Questions
March 23, 2017 at 8:35 am
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(March 23, 2017 at 12:24 am)Polaris Wrote: I believe in all legitimate science (for evolution, I believe God was the architect),
Then you don;t believe in evolution. You believe in intelligent design. Your qualifier of "legitimate" has nothing to do with legitimacy and only refers to compatibility with your religious beliefs.
Quote:but I don't believe in alien life.
Neither do I.
Quote:Me not believing in any extraterrestrial life at all is due to my religious beliefs, but in not believing we will ever make contact with aliens, that's just based on simple science. I wish I could find the people funding SETI and slap the crap out of them for wasting money on that when they can be feeding the hungry.
Why not slap the shit out of people funding churches first...since SETI, at least, provides accurate raw data that has been used to great effect by people -not- concerned with aliens, gods, or other bits of fantasy? Every church window is a loaf of bread (or a hundred loaves of bread)..and no church window has ever helped us to understand space.
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RE: Evolution Questions
March 23, 2017 at 8:42 am
(March 23, 2017 at 12:24 am)Polaris Wrote: I believe in all legitimate science (for evolution, I believe God was the architect), but I don't believe in alien life. Me not believing in any extraterrestrial life at all is due to my religious beliefs, but in not believing we will ever make contact with aliens, that's just based on simple science. I wish I could find the people funding SETI and slap the crap out of them for wasting money on that when they can be feeding the hungry.
Hey, have you donated your paycheck to feed the poor? I bet not.
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RE: Evolution Questions
March 23, 2017 at 9:10 am
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(March 23, 2017 at 12:24 am)Polaris Wrote: I believe in all legitimate science (for evolution, I believe God was the architect), but I don't believe in alien life. Me not believing in any extraterrestrial life at all is due to my religious beliefs, but in not believing we will ever make contact with aliens, that's just based on simple science. I wish I could find the people funding SETI and slap the crap out of them for wasting money on that when they can be feeding the hungry.
You want to believe that sure. I am sure you also truly believe that sure. But no sorry, it simply makes absolutely no sense to postulate such a character knowing our scientific reality.
Just on a efficiency output standpoint. If this was designed by an all powerful all loving being, why all the waste? For every 1 sperm that gets to the egg you have millions more in that emission that die and do nothing. The giraffe has a nerve that goes from one ear, all the way down the neck, then back up to the other ear. It would seem to me the quickest way would be a straight line. Humans share the same throat that we eat and breath from which leaves us with the flaw of choking to death on our food while other mammals such as whales and dolphins don't have that problem. Humans have to build shelter and make cloths to survive in the cold whereas penguins don't. Cockroaches are far more efficient at reproduction than humans and are small enough that they are more adapt to survive the radiation the mass extinction event of the meteor that killed the dinosaurs.
I think we might get to the point of verbally communicating with other life, but no, I don't believe in AREA 51 little green men conspiracy crap. But you don't need a religious belief to reject si fi garbage superstition either. The atoms that make up carbon based life, as individual atoms exist everywhere in the universe. Considering that there are 150-200 billion estimated galaxies in our observable universe, that would be trillions of trillions of planets surrounding the billions of suns in each of them. I don't think bending space and time to space travel is possible nor shrinking ourselves or copying ourselves like in Star Trek will be anything but only math on paper. But other life existing even if only proven at the microbial level is a very high likelihood. It would not surprise me in the least if within this century we prove that microbes can survive within our solar system.
Maybe you need to consider that "all this" being the universe is not caused by a "who" with super natural powers. Maybe you need to consider that all this is like a giant natural weather pattern. If you don't need Poseidon to explain hurricanes, and you don't need Thor to explain lightening, why would the universe need a god of the gaps answer of any label to explain it?
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RE: Evolution Questions
March 23, 2017 at 10:08 am
Whatever happened to the OP?
I'm not anti-Christian. I'm anti-stupid.
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RE: Evolution Questions
March 23, 2017 at 11:10 am
(March 23, 2017 at 10:08 am)Mister Agenda Wrote: Whatever happened to the OP?
Darwined out. 
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RE: Evolution Questions
March 23, 2017 at 12:00 pm
Astreja - Thanks for being only one of two answering my last question:
"Where did all the living creatures ,including us, come from and managed to be so complex like all living beings are?"
with an actual answer of your own ideas.
If you believe all living beings including humans evolved, where did the ( "self-replicating" modules ) come from?
Think about how complex the human brain is and the way our bodies are designed inside.
I am looking forward to your answer.Thanks again!
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RE: Evolution Questions
March 23, 2017 at 12:08 pm
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(March 23, 2017 at 12:00 pm)val5662 Wrote: Astreja - Thanks for being only one of two answering my last question:
"Where did all the living creatures ,including us, come from and managed to be so complex like all living beings are?"
with an actual answer of your own ideas.
If you believe all living beings including humans evolved, where did the ( "self-replicating" modules ) come from?
Think about how complex the human brain is and the way our bodies are designed inside.
I am looking forward to your answer.Thanks again!
The question where the self-replicating molecule came from isn't really connected to or aggravated by the fact that the brain is complex. Do you have a valid reason why you raise that issue here? The complexity of the brain is explained by the subsequent millions of years of evolution (we have enough examples of gradations of simpler nervous systems in extant species in case you wonder what the development might have looked like). Now, for the first replicating molecule, there are many chemical mechanisms that feature replication, starting with simple polymerization. I'm not an expert on abiogenesis, nor is anyone here as far as I am aware. If you really want to know and not just score cheap points, go to the experts. If you want to know something about the big bang and all that, I'm your man.
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RE: Evolution Questions
March 23, 2017 at 12:09 pm
Polaris-
Just had to reply to your comment " but I don't believe in alien life".
Two friends and I watched an Alien Space Craft hover about three hundred feet away from us.
Sighting lasted about a minute.If anybody wants to see more about our encounter check it out here:
vnovak.com/ufo14feb2011.html
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RE: Evolution Questions
March 23, 2017 at 12:14 pm
(March 23, 2017 at 12:09 pm)val5662 Wrote: Polaris-
Just had to reply to your comment " but I don't believe in alien life".
Two friends and I watched an Alien Space Craft hover about three hundred feet away from us.
Sighting lasted about a minute.If anybody wants to see more about our encounter check it out here:
vnovak.com/ufo14feb2011.html
How did you determine it was an alien space craft?
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