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Anyone here seen the documentary Jesus Camp?
#11
RE: Anyone here seen the documentary Jesus Camp?
My favorite part of the film (if 'favorite' is even the right word) is when the leader of the camp stresses over and over that they are NOT politically motivated or affiliated....then literally in the next scene pulls out a cardboard cut-out of George W Bush and directs the kids to pray for/to him.
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#12
RE: Anyone here seen the documentary Jesus Camp?
Yeah, you think the christian fundy might swing towards the republican side a bit?
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10 Christ-like figures that predate Jesus. Link shortened to Chris ate Jesus for some reason...
http://listverse.com/2009/04/13/10-chris...ate-jesus/

Good video to watch, if you want to know how common the Jesus story really is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88GTUXvp-50

A list of biblical contradictions from the infallible word of Yahweh.
http://infidels.org/library/modern/jim_m...tions.html

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#13
RE: Anyone here seen the documentary Jesus Camp?
I bought it back in college. I was immature enough at that point that I didn't have the sense to be outraged, just bemused.
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#14
RE: Anyone here seen the documentary Jesus Camp?
(March 28, 2017 at 9:10 pm)It_Was_me Wrote:
(March 28, 2017 at 8:55 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: I guess my first question is why? What does the instructor state as the purpose of watching, what is the value?

Do you watch other nut job vids from other religions?

Well to start it's a Sociology of Religion course. Secondly, we have watched other documentaries on cults as well. We watched one on Scientology, the Amish and another called Kumare' in which a guy demonstrates how easy it is to start a cult and get followers.

So is the whole class directed toward how religion corrupts societies?

Don't get me wrong, I believe that humanity would be better off without religion at this time is our development. However, I can't deny that religion also has positive impacts in peoples lives that need the fantasy to cope, both historically and today. 

It all depends on the religion(s) and where the radical element takes it.
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RE: Anyone here seen the documentary Jesus Camp?
South Park 'did' this topic. The episode is almost too much for me to watch . . . .
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#16
RE: Anyone here seen the documentary Jesus Camp?
I've watched the documentary a few times and quite honestly it is disgusting. This is hardcore indoctrination and it's fucking despicable to watch. God forbid you teach your children how to think for themselves... they might end up as atheists!

This is the type of camp where they teach kids that things like Harry Potter are evil and that you should isolate yourself from other people who are not religious. It gets really cult like really quick.. these kids are taught that they are warriors for god and all this stuff.

I won't say what I would do to the lady who runs this camp. Might end up on a list somewhere.
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It is the air and light of every heart – builder of every home, kindler of every fire on every hearth. It was the first to dream of immortality. It fills the world with melody – for music is the voice of love.

Love is the magician, the enchanter, that changes worthless things to Joy, and makes royal kings and queens of common clay. It is the perfume of that wondrous flower, the heart, and without that sacred passion, that divine swoon, we are less than beasts; but with it, earth is heaven, and we are gods.” - Robert. G. Ingersoll


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#17
RE: Anyone here seen the documentary Jesus Camp?
(March 28, 2017 at 8:41 pm)It_Was_me Wrote: I have to watch it for my Sociology of Religion class, and it is cringy as fuck!

I had watched it, some time ago.... please don't lump all Christians into one group... especially if it was these guys.
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#18
RE: Anyone here seen the documentary Jesus Camp?
Watched it many years ago. 
Though, I was a casual believer at the time, I found it très depressing.
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#19
RE: Anyone here seen the documentary Jesus Camp?
At my jesus camp I learned to french kiss and got to second base (outside of a non padded bra).
Being told you're delusional does not necessarily mean you're mental. 
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#20
RE: Anyone here seen the documentary Jesus Camp?
I've seen highlights and was curious but so far I haven't been able to stomach actually watching it. 


Several years ago one of my friends told me his 8 year old niece was sent to a summer Christian camp. The parents were not fundies but they just figured it was a summer camp for Christian kids and they would do the normal camp things like archery and canoeing and so on. This is in Canada and I don't think anyone knew that such camps were in operation here so the parents were not prepared for what occurred. 

When their daughter returned from camp (two weeks I think) she was freaking out and crying as she was so worried that everyone she loved was going to burn in hell for any number of sins that had been drilled into her head. I was told she had to be deprogrammed but I have no idea how that was accomplished.
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