Trans people & sports

[John V]

Found it - didn't look in sports at first.

[Shell B]

While I agree alphamale has a tendency to lean toward hateful, I hope you see that not everyone who questions it does so hatefully. It's just a topic for debate in my opinion. People talk about the disadvantages and advantages biological males and females have in sports all the time. It's natural that they'll do the same for trans individuals. Some will do it as a way to demean them, but certainly not all. If there is a demonstrable advantage for m2f trans individuals, then there is something to be adjusted. If there isn't, since I'm certainly not positive there is, then there is no problem. It's worth discussing, though. The same goes the other way, if f2m individuals have a disadvantage competing in a male sport and no advantage in female sports, then fuck it, let them compete with women. It's like competing in your own weight class. You might not like being the little guy, but you are and you have to compete against other little guys.

All of that said, that's as far as my interest goes. I wouldn't invest my own time in solving this issue. I'm about tapped out on give a shit in this department as of this post.

[Jesster]

While I agree alphamale has a tendency to lean toward hateful, I hope you see that not everyone who questions it does so hatefully.

I wasn't calling this topic hateful. I was talking about a post in another thread. There's no need to dedicate a large post to this one, Shell.

[SteelCurtain]

I think pretending like there's no difference in the name of equality is noble, but in these conversations it's not helpful.

I do think there is an inherent advantage in a 'late' transitioning adult trans person. (Whatever 'late' means.)

The problem is that the defining line is blurry. We cannot have a subjective decision being made with people's lives, because it definitely leads to corruption and unfairness.

There are a lot of restrictions that we place on athletes, and one of them might have to be that if you begin hormonal transition after the age of X, you cannot compete in international competition. I am no longer eligible to play in the NCAA because I exhausted my 5 years of eligibility. I know it's not the same, but it is a rule instated by a private commission.

[Shell B]

While I agree alphamale has a tendency to lean toward hateful, I hope you see that not everyone who questions it does so hatefully.

I wasn't calling this topic hateful. I was talking about a post in another thread. There's no need to dedicate a large post to this one, Shell.

I didn't see his post in the other thread. I'm not dedicating any large posts to anything. I'm just thinking me thoughts and typing them.

[brewer]

Has anyone brought human Chimera's into the discussion yet?

Great googlymoogly!

[Shell B]

Has anyone brought human Chimera's into the discussion yet?

Great googlymoogly!

Can you think of a form of chimerism that *could* give you an advantage in sports?

[Secular Elf]

Maybe what people should be concentrating on, especially if one does care about the human element within sports, is the sex abuse scandal that  recently broke regarding women's Olympic gymnastics.

[brewer]

[Secular Elf]