What the name of God is.

[downbeatplumb]

MK, I've noticed that upon your recent return to AF you've spent more time and placed more emphasis on preaching to us rather than talking with us. 

Have other things changed in your behavior? Have things changed in your relationships with others in the real world? They certainly seemed to have changed here. 

Only expressing concern.

Yes he seems to have been radicalised, he is certainly more on transmit than receive these days. When he answers its only to try and put his point across in different words, no engagement with what is actually put to him.

I suspect he is spouting the words of others that he wrongly thinks are profound.

[LastPoet]

MK, I've noticed that upon your recent return to AF you've spent more time and placed more emphasis on preaching to us rather than talking with us. 

Have other things changed in your behavior? Have things changed in your relationships with others in the real world? They certainly seemed to have changed here. 

Only expressing concern.

Yes he seems to have been radicalised, he is certainly more on transmit than receive these days. When he answers its only to try and put his point across in different words, no engagement with what is actually put to him.

I suspect he is spouting the words of others that he wrongly thinks are profound.

Dunno about you, but I remember how he was with his LoD Link avatar. Quite more... understandable.

Then I don't remember what I ate yesterday... oh wait it was chicken.

[Amarok]

At least we try, Atheists don't even try.

1. False

2. Trying isn't itself a virtue

3. Don't see or don't want to see

[Nanny]

The experience of love is chemistry affecting receptors in your brain. This is not news. It's like when someone smokes a cigarette. The nicotine triggers the release of dopamine which is experienced as mild euphoria.

Though I haven't studied it, I suspect morality has an evolutionary advantage for our species. We are able to read signs of others' behavior and infer what they are experiencing. If Bob looks scared, maybe I should be scared, too. Cooperation among individuals allows for advantages that conflict among individuals does not. Two sets of eyes watching for predators is better than one set of eyes doing it.

I don't understand why love or morality requires justification. If I put my face in cold water the breath-hold reflex - a universal reflex - doesn't need to be justified. It's an inherited trait.

[Astreja]

Love is not a mere chemical, it is our leader channeling us his blessings and help...

No, your hypothetical god has no demonstrated link with the phenomenon of love.  It's a combination of evolved brain chemistry and social and personal experiences.

And it ends forever at the moment of your death, and your beliefs cannot and will not save you.  Love real people while you're alive, with no expectation whatsoever of that love continuing beyond your last breath.

[brewer]

The Quran commands all men and woman to be Sages that teach the knowledge of the book to others just as they learned it. To be learned and free of attachment to this world, sincerely worship God, and teach the book to others and learn the knowledge themselves.

I don't believe in clergy class division of this labor.

OK, you've taught me as well as you could. BTW, you're not the first to attempt this. I have rejected your teachings and tell you that I will never accept them. 

Will you now continue to preach to me? To try and convince me into believing the same as you by what ever means you can, relentlessly? 

That smells like cult behavior. Is that what you want your belief to be considered? Is that what you want to be considered?

[Kernel Sohcahtoa]

  [1]The Quran commands all men and woman to be Sages that teach the knowledge of the book to others just as they learned it. [2] To be learned and free of attachment to this world, sincerely worship God, and teach the book to others and learn the knowledge themselves.

 
 
 
 
I appreciate your candor, sir, and I do admire the dedication that you show for your belief system. IMO, your faith seems to be something that is very beautiful and wonderful for you. 

With that said, if you're interested, I have questions for you.  Regarding [1], is this command to be executed against peoples’ will, or does it only apply to people who are interested in learning about Islam and/or possibly becoming practitioners of it?  Regarding [2], when the Quran was written, did it take into account that our world would become more multicultural and require the various peoples of Earth to be more interdependent?  Is a strict adherence to [1] and [2] effective in a world where humanity’s various groups of people are equally passionate and dedicated about their particular way of thinking? 

In addition, I have noticed that you have presented logical arguments for god.  Out of curiosity, if one attempts to establish the existence of god via reason and logic, then does this also open up the possibility that god can actually be understood and explained via reason and logic?  Hence,  is it possible that god can be understood/explained in a secular way?

Thank you for your time and attention, MysticKnight.

[ignoramus]

MK, real love is in all of us.... It comes from an invisible dragon whose spirit lives in all of us..

He he our guiding light! He is our redeemer whether you believe in him or not!

Now tell us, MK, what is wrong with what I just said?

[Whateverist]

Dude, it's career advice, not a prescription for the world, and the more religious division within Islam, the better I think. If MK comes up with his own Islamic sect, all the better.

The Quran commands all men and woman to be Sages that teach the knowledge of the book to others just as they learned it. To be learned and free of attachment to this world, sincerely worship God, and teach the book to others and learn the knowledge themselves.

I don't believe in clergy class division of this labor.

The Quran can command those who are intimidated by it -like you- to do whatever you're willing to do.  But that doesn't oblige anyone else to be taught by you or to indulge anything else you think it commands you to do.  Just stay to hell out of our lives with that batshittery.

[Minimalist]